panzerfeist1“
What you are asking for is not going to be publicly shared (i.e. finer details and performance parameters of TS). The MDA and other agencies assigned with funding and development TS purposefully keep the information they share about them scant. From what we know, between Short Range and Intercontinental ballistic missile range threat classes there are more than a dozen land or air launched TS or TS variants including some that are designed to replicate some very specific/narrow, though unspecified, threats. That is all that the powers at be are willing to share and for good reason.”
There have been some failed intercept tests.
https://thediplomat.com/2017/06/missile-defense-blues-sm-3-block-iia-fails-second-intercept-test/
“Upon acquiring and tracking the target, the ship launched an SM-3 Block IIA guided missile, but the missile did not intercept the target.”
“The U.S Missile Defense Agency considers missiles with ranges between 1,000 kilometers to 3,000 kilometers to be MRBMs. North Korea’s Pukkuksong-1 submarine-launched ballistic missile and Pukkuksong-2 solid-fuel missile both fall into this range.”
For example I do not think a missile like the pukkuksong has maneuvering capabilities as advanced as the russians.
However a certain someone is this forum has not provided sources about the size of a MRBM being intercepted by an SM-6 nor if it has maneuvering capabilities but assumes they are the same. Thats like saying intercepting the Avangard is the same as intercepting a ICBM(Do not want to give him any ideas). Atleast I have the decency in this forum to provide different sources of 100km AESA radars on tanks, jammers being developed after 2014 and the increased effectiveness of newer jammers on drones despite no one liking those sources and drawing conclusions without any sources of their own saying it is not feasible. I will still wait on those ideas after newer sources come out. But pushing goal posts without any information where users got it from is the only things that ticks me off.
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Mach 10 is the top velocity when missile travel out of atmosphere (same as all ballistic missile), at that point it can be intercept by SM-3
Once reentry Kinzhal will be slower, furthermore, i would imagine it need to hit its target still, so the direction of travel will eventually come back to the original flight path, and the interceptor missiles will intercept in a head on collision rather than tail chase so i guess that account for something
Bottom line, the maneuvering, hyper sonic target drone like GQM-163, AQM-37, Silver Sparrow could be intercepted, so SM-6 clearly don’t have trouble with target faster than Mach 2.2″
I do not care how many times I will keep screwing up your goal posts. But any sources of a hypersonic manuevering target being intercepted by Aegis instead of simple trajectory hypersonic missiles?
panzerfeist1Got a question on the s-400 and f-35s for Turkey. What amount of F-35s did turkey plan to order and what time frame was the original order supposed to end? Could have they just gotten the f-35s 1st and than order the s-400?
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Even though both hyper sonic weapon and ballistic missiles can fly at hyper-sonic speed, the hypersonic weapon are harder to intercept because they fly at lower altitude and therefore give shorter reaction time”
And the air launched ballistic missiles being sparrow or kinzhal have claims of manuevability throwing off guidance systems. Although no one knows if Aegis has intercepted the same capabilities. MRBMs are classed at mach 8-12 Kinzhal claims mach 10+ while appearing to be the size of a SRBM. Do you have size references for the sparrow class missiles?
panzerfeist1Has Aegis delt with targets that have the speeds of a MRBM but size of SRBM targets that change trajectories. Or just targets that have the size and speed of MRBMs that follow just 1 trajectory? I hope the sparrow missiles will be operational soon to prove it.
panzerfeist1Can someone explain how KGB got banned but Scooter hasn’t?
panzerfeist1“If other nations have S-400 operational with them will US disallow the same of F-35 to these nations too?”
The we can not sell our top of the line 5th gens because there is our adversaries advanced air defense routine will just further embarass lockheed to the general public by degrading the aircrafts capabilies while unnecessarily hyping up the air defense even more. I think the US will just avoid making sale offers to countries possessing s-400s or have plans of purchasing them. There are not a lot of rich countries that are 1. non-NATO. 2. rich enough to not give a **** about sanctions. 3. Have no US influence. Pretty much you do not have alot of s-400 customers to begin with. Only countries that meet these categories with the exception of Turkey is Saudi arabia, Qatar, China, India and Brazil. 4 of the 5 took interest in the air defense(unless someone finds a rich country that meets the 3 requirements). Now Brazil does have a pretty decent growing GDP but I do not think they see the needs to own one with their surrounding countries. If Brazil says I want to purchase F-35s I am very sure Lockheed after their incident with Turkey will now make a mandatory rule for their contracts to include do not buy Russian air defenses. If they can not agree with the rules than cancellation of the F-35s to Brazil must be done. Although I would avoid news publications as much as possible unless a contract is signed 1st with that country adhering to the rules in place.
Also another reason the US would disallow F-35s to countries with s-400s is to give information to its stealth readings in different frequency waves or studying its RF emissions with passive sensors. Like having a network you do not want hackers to do passive or active scans to find vulnerabilites. Countries look over their own interests more than they do with the US which probably does not have accountability to what that nation would do with those secrets.
panzerfeist1[USER=”1416″]Scooter[/USER]
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The cold hard truth is the Su-57 is pretty much a failure as a program. So, best Russia can do is save what it can”
April fools is finished. Can you go bother them
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panzerfeist1https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tech/330126-s-500
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A separate ultra-long-range guided missile, coined the 40N6, is also being developed for the new air defense system. Its new automatic homing head will enable it to flirt with Earth’s orbit while independently identifying targets in space before intercepting them. In the
past
all these functions were performed by radars that were part of the air defense system, but the new missile will essentially have a mind of its own.”
Does anyone have information on the name of this missiles homing head(example r-77 having Agat and aam-4b having j/apg-2)? Do not know if this counts as cheating for stealth aircrafts but I have heard from sources some vhf and uhf radars can be 100 meters or more off target and it seems that the evolution of X-band radars on missiles is getting to the point that it can easily fix the target accuracy of low frequency radars by doing the rest with its radar beam as long as it is sent to the right location and being close enough to do the rest.
panzerfeist1What is this bull****? This is as stupid as saying Japanese are like Koreans.
Take a joke will you its april fools. However poles ethnicity wise are closer to Russians than the Japanese are to Koreans. So for our last conversation do you agree that the al-41 on the su-57 is the same range as the al-31 on the su-27 and that there are no range estimates on the izdelie 30?
panzerfeist1@tr1
F-35 senior designer and head ceo of stealth uavs is robert ruszkowski. To me technically polaks are like russians. But its getting annoying having users come here and say my slavshit is better than your slavshit design on a su-57 thread.
panzerfeist1
[USER=”58228″]mig-31bm[/USER]
“Kh-59MK2 has bigger warhead but it doesn’t have longer range than JSOW-ER, JSM , MALD-V, LRASM and SOM-J, HSSW , either F-35 could hold it own when it come to missiles range.”
mk2 is 550kms, JSOW-ER is 560kms, JSM is 560kms, mald-v 500 nautical miles, LRASM based on JASSM–ER 930kms, Som-J 250km while turkey claims we can make 2,500kms, hssw can not find any ranges on just like Russia claiming same speed and range of mini-kinzhal to fit inside su-57 in the last discussion here.
Have any of the missiles mentioned been tested yet like the mk2?(https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/21105/russia-shows-its-su-57-fighter-launching-a-new-cruise-missile-from-its-weapons-bay) Since I see some serve a different purpose and some wont be tested or completed by mid 2020s.
panzerfeist1[USER=”41059″]halloweene[/USER] “
huh? Sure about that? To me it is a mechanical radar, the sensor is a derivative of MICA missile sensor.”
Here is where I got the information from.
http://tokyoexpress.info/2018/01/22/
“Because “AAM-4B” is thicker than “Meetiaa(” (AAM-4B / 20.3 cm versus Meetia / 17.8 cm), the seeker mounted in “Meetia” decreases cross section by 20% and the number of TR units Will be less, but because it is an improved type, the detection performance is said to be equal or better than expected.”
“As mentioned above, the AESA seeker using the Ga-N made TR element doubles the power consumption compared to the PASA radar using the Ga-As element which is currently mounted in “Meetiaa”, but the detection ability (distance and size ) Is remarkably improved.”
meetiaa as there way of saying meteor on google translate since of course they are tasked with improving the host radar on the body of the meteor missile.
panzerfeist1[USER=”76365″]RALL[/USER]
“We know because russian patent (included RAM coat) of the Su-57 it will be between 0,1-1 m2 its RCS. 10 times less than Su-27. Yes, it can be improved on real world, but you should be not wait big difference with published numbers.”
So are they referring to overall RCS or frontal RCS like the F-22? I have looked at the patent and it still unclear what they took into account regarding RCS. But just like the F-35 even the SU-57 RCS estimates have changed. Regarding no metal oxide paint into calculation which was added later they said it appears as a bird on radar according to snufflebugs December source talking about fiber optics in the composite materials.
“we did not see new airtoair missiles to replace R-77 and R-73.”
Japan felt pretty proud of their AM-4B having a longer 40% autonomous range than the estimated 20km lock on the R-77 from a 2010 paper. R-77-1 is their latest variant since your making it sound like they still use a 1990s design. Japan also looks down on the Meteor missile using host PESA passive radar in which they are gladly replacing to make JNAAMs. Host AESA radars on missiles will take awhile to be operational while the Russians did give us the courtesy to see the 64 modules of the K-77M.
[USER=”55194″]RadDisconnect[/USER] ”
Both Su-57 and Su-27 have range around 3,500 km”
Yes the SU-57 with the “”AL-41″” was given the 3,500km ferry range. But there are no official sources(other sources said 5,000kms) of what the izdelie-30 range is and I am sure better fuel efficiency is what this engine offers.
panzerfeist1[USER=”55194″]RadDisconnect[/USER] are you comparing the Al-41 on the su-57 having same range as al-31 on su-27?
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