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  • in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2218950
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    There is other interesting GaN stuff in the works…

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2219264
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    Personally, I think 200 a year in 2019 (order year) is unlikely.

    But LockMart is telling the Canadians to bet on it…

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    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2219273
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    I tend to agree. At this point it’s too far out to tell, and the minister will be off in retirement, beating himself with birch twigs and leaping into icy water.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2219476
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    As for the Finns, there are two translations for the minister’s remarks.

    See http://www.janes.com/article/36919/finland-should-opt-for-f-35-over-gripen-if-the-price-is-right-minister-says

    In that case, he says “if [not ‘when’] we could acquire American F-35 stealth fighters for roughly the same price.” And he can’t do that and never will be able to.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2219482
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    VN – For the 2017 buy year, 2019 delivery year, the F-35A URFC is $87m in base 2012 dollars. It’s in the SAR. You don’t see the $75m numbers until the 2019 buy year, where LockMart is predicting more than 200 deliveries.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2219615
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    Obligatory wins 2 internetz.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2219779
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    VN – EADS qualified on price and number in Korea (aside from the dispute on the number of two-seaters) and F-35 did not.

    As for the base-2012 $75m flyaway – the assumptions are still squishy. It certainly involves no further US cuts and substantial non-US commitments and a production rate close to 200/year.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2220112
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    The EF bid was responsive, as far as I know, in terms of price and number. They wanted 60 aircraft for a fixed budget, which the EF and Boeing bids met.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2220206
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    In Korea, the budget for 60 Typhoons or F-15SEs paid for 40 F-35s, delivered in years where the JSF is expected to have a higher production rate than either and when some 300 aircraft will have been delivered to the DoD alone. So to undercut the Typhoon the F-35 price would have to come down by a further >1/3rd, which is most unlikely.

    f-16.net is unavailable half the time these days, proving that there are levels of derp that even the intertubez cannot handle.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2221846
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    That’s interesting, Oblig.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2222042
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    As the piece under discussion concludes:

    None of this is to say that stealth is dead, but it is not reasonable to expect that the cat-and-mouse game of detection and evasion in air combat has stopped, or that it ever will. EA and stealth still do not coexist very comfortably on the same platform, but offboard EA and stealth are synergistic: the smaller the target, the less jamming power is needed to mask it.

    The article cited in BiO’s post is eight years old and an entire outlier. More recently, by the way, NorthGrum has briefed that their GaN tech could be used to add some self-protect to the JSF – but then we’re talking Block 5 at the earliest, in the latter 2020s.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2222586
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    Typical inputs from the Monkey House. This is what really happened:

    The pivotal program in the evolution of JAST/JSF was DARPA’s Common Affordable Lightweight Fighter demo program.

    This arose from the ashes of US-UK ASTOVL, which had expired due to three causes: None of the ASTOVL concepts worked very well, Lockheed’s black-world STOVL Strike Fighter study was offering the Marines stealth for little or no added cost, and between them the RN and the Marines could not fund a program.

    CALF was a way to find money for SSF. It was focused on a single, engine-driven fan (gas or shaft) that could be removed from a CTOL version and the space used for fuel, and an ATF-based engine. Boeing’s direct-lift design was an interloper.

    JAST was initially a study of building blocks and technologies rather than a specific airframe – the idea being that whatever requirements emerged from different users, they would use a lot of common parts. It also involved looking at the implications of going to war with all guided weapons, which clearly would affect payload.

    The next step was the fusion of CALF and JAST, which was a top-level decision (Perry/OSD) that also had huge domestic and industrial implications. From that point on, as JAST became JSF, anyone advocating a diversion from the CALF formula had to make a case for it. The Navy wanted a twin – a study was conducted to show that this was not necessary. Two seats were to be provided for (in either CV or CTOL versions) but never taken up. 1000 lb vs. 2000 lb weapons was not a big deal (the dimensions are not that different) but there was no question that there would be only two internal bombs other than emerging small weapons.

    Note that the F-35 is the Lockheed CALF design in all major particulars (size, power, internal layout, LO approach), except for the wing and tail surfaces (external to the body layout): the canard delta did not scale easily to meet Navy approach speed standards.

    in reply to: F135 vs F136 #2223015
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    DJC – However, even post-Carter (82-84), PW was campaigning against F101-DFE/F110 and promising to fix F100 next week and deliver a 28K engine (PW1128) tomorrow. It was only when the competition got serious that they did the necessary work (HPC redesign, IIRC) to get to the -220 engine.

    in reply to: Saab Gripen & Gripen NG thread #3 #2223034
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    Oblig – Correct. Because of the way the Gripen program is structured, Sweden can offer a lease of modern, low-time aircraft that are closely related to what the customer eventually would buy.

    in reply to: F-35 News, Multimedia & Discussion thread (3) #2223290
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    How many jets have been built? How many hours flown?

    By now, there is plenty of data to calculate production costs at different rates, cost per flight hour and the rolling cost of hardware and software upgrades.

    If those numbers have not been generated so far, the program should be cancelled and all involved should be encouraged to apply for entry-level positions at Wal-Mart.

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