[QUOTE=..just take a look at the Revell-Kit´s wings … The trailing edge / ailerons doesn´t match at all, right?
It looks like the kit has the later long wing with parallel chord ailerons. There were several wing aileron combinations over the years and doubtless many unusual variations that have now been forgotten in the mists of time. I defy any “expert” to state that you are categorically wrong ,whatever you decide.
It’s your model after all!
These aircraft have got nothing to do with each other, just that with all the vs. threads on this damn thing I thought I’d bring up two aircraft that you lot HAVEN’T pitched against each other (sorry :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: :diablo: )
Funnily enough my father was involved in an RAF Oxford vs Canadian F86 Sabre joust. The Sabre never succesfully engaged the Oxford.
There again it didn’t try yoyo-ing, which would probably be the current methodology.
“Bomber” was fiction of course. 31st of June and all that.
[QUOTE=…starfire]Bingo! That sketch will do, thanks for the link James.
Is it OK to reproduce or publicise sketches on the web that are taken from published articles without permission or acknowledgement ?
I’m thinking of the F13 article in AE 16 and John Stroud in this particular case.
Movies are not the truth. Period.
But there again- what is?
Why dont they simply put something in the same orbit, but under the satelite. This can be little more than debris, and be a very cost effective way of preventing spying.
Unlike commercial satellites, many U.S. Reconsats have the ability to change their orbits to a degree.
Evening all,
in 1923 the Air Ministry purchased a single Junkers F13 for all-metal-tests. According to Air Britain´s “RAF Aircraft J1-J9999” ist was an “early machine with short span wings” (14,4m, don´t know what´s that in ft.).
However, all 3-side-views I´ve found show always the “big span” 17,75m-wings. Revell´s F13 model kit ist also a “big span” version. The easiest way to reproduce a “short span” one would be clipping the wings to the correct lenght, but I wonder if the shape will be correct. Any idea if other photos of the real J7232 exist? Or just a good 3-side-view? :confused:
It would be a mistake just to clip the wing I think – the aileron shape would also probably need to be modified.
I understood that the UK received at least one F13 as reparations post WW1 . Years ago ( c.1970)I did see images of at least one aircraft in the RAE photo Archives at Farnborough. I am unaware of how much of this huge collection actually survived ( The first images ,incidentally were glass plates- starting with shots over London from an airship operated by Cody).
Does anyone have information on this pre war airliner design?
It is described with basic specs and GA in Chris Barnes’s Putnam on Shorts pp341 -4 as well as in AE of Sep 72, along with the Fairey FC1 and G.A. L. 40, all of which suffered cancellation, the part-built S.32 in May 1940.
The enclosed model shot appears in a variety of sources -origin unknown.
Doe’s any know of a picture of Mr Barnard and his Sis V, perhap’s just after his Race win.??? I would like to see how it was painted[/QUOTE]
I think this is the shot.Its originally a Flight Photo ,so full acknowledgement to them.
I met a nephew (?) of his who was serving as an RAF Squadron Leader Admin many years ago. My interest in Rags being that , like my father, he was ex 126 Sqn Malta.
Who knows! Unlikely, though. However, I seem to recall a recent story whereby the Germans wanted aeroplanes back from a museum in Poland or Czech republic?? Perhaps someone can tell me I didnt imagine this??? Andy
I seem to recall that some of the pre-war Berlin Collection ( bombed during the war by the USAAF) was removed during the Soviet Block era and moved to Warsaw Pact Museums ( Warsaw and Prague Kbely?) – including the remains of the Me “209” by memory. Perhaps this is what you heard?
If he is still alive I bet he is REALLY happy you have just told the world!
I was thinking more of a bit of respect and consideration for his surviving family.
Regarding the two Roumanian Siskin V shots on this thread it is perhaps of interest to note that in both cases the area around the a/c number on the rudder has been subject to a bit of alteration.
Possibly this is yet another illustration of the pitfalls of relying too much upon perceived markings and serials as primary evidence when attempting to establish the identities of individual aircraft. In this case it could be so mundane as the rudders merely having being swopped around.
Don’t know if Amtrak (the train) is the best way to travel NY – DC but I travelled Chicago – DC (a long journey including over-night) and would thoroughly recommend it. All stories about the poor rail service in the USA proved, in my case certainly, unfounded.
The lengthy trip I undertook by Greyhound wasn’t too bad either.
Roger Smith.
Can recommend Greyhound NY-DC -about half a day, dirt cheap and very entertaining. Alternatively car hire is dead easy and gives the flexibility for getting around.
Span 105 ft, Length 82 ft, wing area 1,300 sq ft, wing loading 32.5 lb sq ft , interior cabin length 32 ft, cabin width 10 ft, cabin height 7 ft, payload for 500 miles 9,500lb , payload for 1,700 miles 4,500lb, loaded weight (short haul) 42,000lb, Maximum speed at 13,000ft 275 mph cruising speed at 60 % rated power 225 mph stalling speed 70 mph maximimum range in still air at 50% rated power 1,700 miles. Production powerplants to be 4x RR Exe at 1200 hp.
Project cancelled 17 October 1939.
All this and much more in H.A. Taylor’s Fairey Aircraft since 1915 Putnam