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June 8, 2006 at 7:09 pm in reply to: Unwelcome passenger in cockpit! #401130

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Load of old cobras :rolleyes:

Like that Herald in the 60’s that had a tiger break out of its crate and visit the flight deck.
Comment from ATC , ” Have you tried putting it in your tank?”
(Younger posters ask your parents,or grandparents, for the explanation of that one.)
P.S. If Moggie’s on-line particulars are to be believed, that includes him 🙂

June 8, 2006 at 4:40 pm in reply to: Shackleton Mystery (Long-lived thread) #1252531

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I think you have to look at the period. My father had just left 42 Sqn when the accident happened and the attitude as I recall was very much one of acceptance. Wartime personnel and to a degree a wartime outlook tended to still be in the Service. In addition the military accident rate was far higher then than would be acceptable these days and attitudes were somewhat different. On the balance of probabilities it was accepted by the majority of those concerned on the board as having most likely have been a collision and that was that.

June 8, 2006 at 3:44 pm in reply to: Shackleton Mystery (Long-lived thread) #1252598

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Intriguing story 🙂

So – no second search was made after the engine was found by the trawler?

I think it was 11 years after the event – so why bother?.

June 8, 2006 at 10:08 am in reply to: Harvard Question #1253022

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This discussion is reminiscent of an Eccles and Bluebottle exchange- only longer.

June 8, 2006 at 10:03 am in reply to: The An-22 still flies #2589131

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a thing of beauty… I can only imagine the sound

My first thought was that a flight of Shackletons was approaching when the one piched up at Farnborough in 1990.

June 8, 2006 at 9:34 am in reply to: Shackleton Mystery (Long-lived thread) #1253182

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It was only a few years ago that a German Tu154 and a USAF C-141 collided over the Atlantic well off the West coast of Africa. Although the individual chances of such an incident are small, taking the frequency of air operations overall its only a matter of time statistically…….

June 7, 2006 at 7:04 pm in reply to: helicopter pioneers #1254138

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The Alouette is just good for liaison and SAR.

I think that a lot of South African and Ex-Rhodesian servicemen (at least) would treat that particular utterance of uninformed piffle with the contemptuous dismissal that it deserves.

June 7, 2006 at 3:41 pm in reply to: Harvard Question #1254378

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the same physics gave the Huey its distinctive ‘whop, whop, whop’

And I always thought that was the rotor downwash interfering with the tailboom 🙂

June 6, 2006 at 8:43 am in reply to: Javelin vs Sea Vixen #1256046

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Interesting photo – clearly no horizontal tailplane but I wonder if Gloster’s were considering a Thin Wing Javelin version like this or the if tailplane was removed from the model for other reasons e.g. tailplane drag characterisation. (-the bulge on the top the fin may suggest this was the case i.e. if it has the same “wetted” area as the tailplane but no induced drag, Hence tailplane induced drag = drag on model with Tailplane minus drag on model without Tailplane)

However the first prototype Thin Wing Javelin (known within Gloster’s as the GA6) then under construction at the time of cancellation, certainly did have a horizontal tailplane.

Correct I think .IIRC the model is a wind tunnel model with the tailplane replaced by an equivalent wetted area.

June 5, 2006 at 8:18 pm in reply to: Javelin vs Sea Vixen #1256600

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I am pretty sure that I saw a model of a thin-wing Javelin in the window of the Chief Designers office as I walked by it one day in my apprentice years. As far as I remember, it had no tail-plane.

Perhaps you weren’t mistaken! 🙂

June 5, 2006 at 3:55 pm in reply to: Somewhere in England 1945 #1257072

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Ref #4 above and “KW” possible code.
There is a good shot of a 425 “Alouette” Sqn Halifax III at Tholthorpe in 1944 on page 405 of C H Barnes’s Putnam book on Handley Page. It shows the Preston-Green single 0.5 ” Browning ventral mounting well.The same shot is in John Rawlings’s “Bomber Squadrons of the RAF” p244

June 5, 2006 at 8:04 am in reply to: Mystery WWII airport. #1257698

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From a source in South Africa:
“It is almost certainly COLLONDALE, East London, in the days of JATS, and some time after 1942. The Ben Schoeman airport, now East London, is on the site.The photograph is published in Dave Becker’s book “Yellow Wings” about the JATS days. Although the images are reversed ie between yours and that in the book and yours shows a portion of that in the book, the building layout is distinctive and matches.
The text records that “41 AS ceased training on 31 March 1945, still having 55 Ansons and 3 Harvards on strength. It became one of 7ADs disposal centres for aicraft after the war and was the scene of a huge fire when a large number of Oxfords burnt out while in storage.”
I trust this may be of use- looks like a reversed print or scan somewhere along the line.

June 3, 2006 at 4:50 pm in reply to: General Discussion #317445

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“It was a dark and stormy night ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….”
Writers’ block.
Perhaps I’ll stick to aviation 🙁

June 3, 2006 at 4:50 pm in reply to: Sticking my neck out, please judge #1930061

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“It was a dark and stormy night ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….”
Writers’ block.
Perhaps I’ll stick to aviation 🙁

June 3, 2006 at 1:53 pm in reply to: Does anyone recognise this photo? Need help identifying, please #1258441

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and often forii

In Strine perhaps; but hopefully “fora ” in the English Dictionary.
Hi James! 🙂
Still a wonderful story.
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