Lovely.
Here are a couple I “borrowed” from The Blue Max’s collection!
The second one is also ‘HRC. The question is “what where when”??
Looks like its attempting to masquerade as a “Jenny” for a film.
Or , as far as we were concerned, on pulling the handle:
instead of going Bang!
It would go Baaaaaaang!
Sorry, I didn’t make myself very clear. You make a similar point (and rather better) to the one I was trying to – that the canopy pretty much made it impractical to fit ejector seats to them. Hence my wondering as to when the modern systems with the detcord in the canopy first appeared.
Adrian
The British were incapable originally of “Blowing ” a strong hood for aircraft such as the early two-seat Meteors.
The next general stage was a blown hood with hood separation at the beginning of the ejection sequence- common in the early 50’s.
Going through the hood came next, with MDC really coming in during the early60s in U.K. IIRC.
You couldn’t go through the T7/NF11 canopy in one piece.
Baleout was manual in these variants, “diving towards the trailing edge of the wing” etc.
The clear absence of any boundary layer splitter plate continuing forward of the intake doesn’t , in itself, discount this aircraft as being one of the Tiger family.
However, the more angular (and bigger) intake than that of a “standard” Tiger, plus the absence of the prominent cannon muzzles makes this a bit of an oddity.
The perforated baffle plate forward of the intake and the broad canopy arch makes me consider that we might well be looking at one of the rare F11F-1F Super Tigers. Thus indeed ,therefore, the evident “bump” of the more sculptured and rounded fuselage side of this variant.
All this seemingly confirmed by your image “Properties” tag.
My Dad’s CO (he was marine craft) did not survive the baleout from a meteor (his pilot did) and hit the tail 🙁
As he was a passenger, are you quite sure that it wasn’t a T7?
I have heard similar , but totally unsubstantiated, stories of Messerschmitt paying Handley Page royalties throughout the war for use of the HP Slat on the Me 109.
It’s impossible for a British discussion / commentary on the Mustang to last 17 seconds without mention of the Merlin… (Important and legitimate though that is).
The full taunt also refers to the ex-Messerschmitt origins of at least two members of the design team:
thus giving the argument that the “Best American Fighter of the Second World War was actually a German aircraft with a British engine (following an American failure) in a response originally to a U.K. spec.”
Not my words of course.
Sounds like it could be one of the “Fly with Prudence” films.
These were (in)famous for at least two incidences of accidentally swapping airworthy and none-airworthy airframes (sharing identical serials) in demonstrations of ground incidents illustrating flight safety.
Once deliberately taxiing a perfectly serviceable Anson by mistake at high speed into soft ground and also later largely cutting through the u/c of an airworthy Spitfire in another ground “incident” demo mix up.
Alertken my point was , in fact, a genuine bit of confusion on my part, not an attempt to patronise.
I think the British generally greatly underestimate the sponsorship of the USA from P1127/Pegasus conception right through to the end of the “Tripartite nine”. Indeed, the U.S. text supporting the Kestrel in the Smithsonian caused a friend of mine nearly to have an aneurism when he read that perspective on the Aircraft’s development!
The 2 way street assumption does however,still lead us into continuing problem areas. Although not fully relevant perhaps to this thread ,the now long ongoing JSF software sharing saga illustrates some of these issues.
Bager 1968. Thank you for taking it upon yourself to speak to us all on behalf of both alertken and myself, especially as it would appear from the somewhat peurile tone of your outburst to have been well past your bedtime-even in the USA.
Alertken . I don’t think the AIM -9 (Sidewinder) is in any way related to the Maverick.
The removed Hickory shows the Mig 9 more clearly ( The Il 10 is on the other side)
Do look at the window spacing on the “Peking No 1” type fuselage and compare to the complete example.
I don’t think it is the Hickory after all. In the picture on Mik’s site, the Hickory is to the right – the airframe in question is to the left. It might be one of the unfinished fuselages of the Beijing NR1 feeder-liner, the prototype of which only flew once.
But then again i could be wrong – again
This is the Beijing (Peking) No1 -about 50 metres away. As you can see it doesn’t appear to have quite the same fuselage design, although it seems pretty similar overall.
Another novel feature of the Trident’s undercarriage design was the sideways-retracting nosewheel, which was mounted well off-centre. This was to allow space for the Smiths autoland system and other avionics.
The joke claim at the time was that it was to avoid passenger discomfort on Autolanding ,caused by the nosewheels bumping down the centreline runway lights.
Another reason often quoted was to do with pressure hull integrity, but please don’t quote me as I don’t know.