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  • in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2341628
    Taygibay
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    ^^^^^^^^^^

    ?

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2341690
    Taygibay
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    @Nic
    Que veux-tu que je te dise de plus que ce qui est déjà accessible partout,
    à savoir que le RBE2 fait le changement de mode en à peine plus d’une seconde!
    De Dassault et de Thalès, l’on sait déjà que l’AESA apportera la possibilité
    de changer fréquences et modes plusieurs fois par seconde.
    Tu as bien raison avec BlueWings pour ce qui a trait aux cibles mobiles!
    Mais… depuis le standard F2, le RBE2 fait du air-sol, c’est écrit partout!!!

    Au hasard :
    http://www.rafale-marine.com/fiches_techniques/evolutions.php

    Mais en un anglais que tu devrais comprendre, ça se trouve aussi :

    Electronically Scanned Array
    The RBE2 was designed from the outset with an electronically scanned array (ESA). For years, the Rafale team touted the technical advantages for a multirole combat jet of an ESA versus a mechanically scanned array, such as the ability to switch seamlessly between air-to-air and air-to-ground tasks. The French air force and navy were finally convinced. Team Rafale is now emphasizing to export customers the additional performance and redundancy offered by the active array and the relative ease of upgrading the RBE2 with the new technology.

    de ce bel article http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-page/article/france-plays-the-long-game-for-dassault-rafale-exports-22859/

    Rafale F2, designed for the French Air Force and Navy, is the first multi-role aircraft. It supports additional air-to-ground, air-to-surface and low-altitude penetration features, as well as the Forward Sector Optronics System (FSOS), MIDS tactical data link and the new EMTI computer. F2 will enter operational service this year and undergo trials on the first outfitted aircraft.

    de chez http://www.thalesgroup.com/Pages/PressRelease.aspx?id=4111

    BTW, and to rejoin our “co-forumers” in the appropriate language
    for the place and in respect to the subject of this thread, it seems
    that the first AESAs will arrive before the end of tranche 3, with
    the number 34 instead of the 37th.

    And for PPP, small thing I found on the old HD, to show the Spectra
    fields : http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1210/1368332779_1c36d41a81_b.jpg

    Also, the whole Spectra suite with the two parts located on the flat section
    by the “exhausts” being chaps and flares dispensers and the rest sensors
    http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7774/oldsoak.jpg .

    As for Swerve, send whomever denies Selex AESA tech right here :
    http://www.selex-sas.com/SelexGalileo/EN/Business/Products/Radar/index.sdo

    where they will see the nice Pico one that flies on their Falco UAV….
    amongst all the others, LOL.

    Good day all, Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342003
    Taygibay
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    Good Nic, then be as wrong as he was!

    Can it simultaneously acquire AA and AG targets?

    That is what he said in his post 98 of this thread!
    That is what I picked up and answered!

    Do you want to go back to that debate, mec?
    BTW, I copy the posts I answer to on my HD
    so even editing won’t cut it!

    Be your own guest at that endless game!
    Enough for today.

    Good luck in all of your analog lives;
    it is way more important, Tay.

    Much ado about nothing once said The Bard; I concur!

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342017
    Taygibay
    Participant

    OK. On a civil tone, no problem!

    Well, your last quote is as valid as they come!
    This from the A&C I quoted 2 pages back seems to make more sense though :

    d’autres capacités, telles que le brouillage ou même la liaison de données par le biais du radar. L’ajout de ces modes “exotiques” exigerait surtout des modifications logicielles.
    Non requises pour l’heure par le client français, ce sont probablement les premiers clients export du Rafale, Émirats en tête,

    “…other capacities such as jamming or a datalink by way of the radar.
    Not called for, as of now, by the french client, it is probaly going to be for the
    first export clients, mainly the UAE….”

    I won’t sent General Silvy packing ( I can’t actually as I am still on reserve for two more years and would get trounced for it, chances are, LOL! )
    but the second quote makes more sense.
    Unless the article is from an interview that took place before the advent of the F3 standard?

    Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342058
    Taygibay
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    Well, my poor Eagle1, I agree to the wealth brought forth
    over the years by Scorpion82. I also have been made fun *
    of by that “sensible” poster. Next time he can keep the grand
    manners to himself!

    Besides, not all of us can be E-sissies. I don’t back from a
    call to brawl in real life, nor will I here in virtual land.

    Sensible? … Certainly not sensitive though!
    Honestly, I don’t care! When someone shows me my errors,
    I usually say thanks as I answered to Sintra!
    I’ll keep trying to show that honesty!

    Others may do as they please!

    Sincerely, Taygibay!

    *While I was right, I may specify!

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342073
    Taygibay
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    @ Scorpion

    I haven’t read it before,

    Well, you should have before writing that post accusing me of
    exactly the same thing, shouldn’t you have?

    Then, you would not have been called for it! So that here :

    Be careful who you call a troll Monsieur!

    as up there, it remains your problem really!

    Re-read that previous piece of smug idiocy of yours in the light
    of me already having answered and ask yourself how good you
    are again!

    OH! And about warning me, I hope that you mean that you will
    send your local men in black….

    NOW! For what counts, PPP, mate, I won’t dispute that :

    You mean the German/French one? From a brief look it seems like two halves of the same foundry.

    but could we find more about it? I’ll look if you look, LOL.

    As far as the cheek arrays thing, of course not a radar by themselves,
    however do remember that not including the small DDM window,
    there are yet four Spectra inclusions on the front of the Rafale.
    So that if the GaN delivers, it would still be useful!

    Here is a snippet from Thales where they say that the arrays can
    do long-range detection:

    Thales and Electronic Warfare

    Spectra

    The Rafale is equipped with the Spectra electronic warfare system, giving the aircraft a multispectral threat warning capability against hostile radars, missiles and lasers. This system is fully integrated into the Rafale for excellent survivability against air and ground threats.

    Spectra also contributes to passive tactical situation awareness, all-weather long-range

    detection, identification and location of threats, within a short response time. The system’s cutting-edge defensive measures are based on combinations of omni-directional AESA jamming, multi-band decoying and evasive manoeuvres, as well as on state-of-the-art technologies such as Digital Radio Frequency Memory (DRFM) signal processing.

    Spectra’s angular location on the aircraft allows it to locate ground threats, to target them for destruction with precision-guided munitions, or to avoid them. Its threat library – which can be defined, integrated and updated on short notice by users in the home country – is instrumental to this performance. As operations unfold, protection onboard the Rafale can be continuously and fluidly enhanced using the system.

    Thales and Mission Systems

    Modular Data Processing Unit (MDPU)

    Enough growth potential has been built into the Rafale to ensure that its design maintains warfighting relevance for several decades. The Modular Data Processing Unit (MDPU) is the cornerstone of this avionics/ weapon upgradeability. Its modular architecture makes for a system that is highly adaptable, allowing straightforward integration of new avionics or new ordnance.

    Sensor data fusion draws on the computing power of the MDPU to process data from the AESA RBE2 radar, the Front-Sector Optronic system, the SPECTRA system, the IFF, the missile seekers and the data-link (L16 or custom).

    From : http://www.thalesgroup.com/Pages/NewsArticle.aspx?id=11665

    Admittedly though, this long-range may be relative, ya know, Ads!

    Read you later, Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342268
    Taygibay
    Participant

    @Scorpion

    First, this is what you said :

    Can it simultaneously acquire AA and AG targets?

    Second, this is what we know :

    Dassault describes it as the difference between “track while scan” and “track here while scan there.” For example, the RBE2 can readily track airborne targets while searching for a target on the ground or providing a ground profile for terrain-following flight.

    Third, your lovely tone of superiority is only brought about by you believing yourself to be anything but a troll!

    Fourth, that is so nice :

    If my english skills doesn’t fool me

    Lastly, anytime babe!

    Good virtual life, Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342285
    Taygibay
    Participant

    Thank you, Sintra!

    I was wrong thinking there was but one foundry but
    it still means that the ability to produce an AESA* is
    there awaiting production! * ( For combat A/Cs )

    Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342360
    Taygibay
    Participant

    ^^^^^^
    Just what I answered to Obligatory!
    The MMIC tech is shared so ….

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342438
    Taygibay
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    En attaque à la mer, le RBE2 délivre à grande distance une analyse de la situation tactique avec identification et classement des cibles et permet le tir de missiles type Exocet hors des systèmes de défense surface-air.

    In sea attacks, the RBE2 delivers at great distance an analysis of the tactical situation with identification and classification of targets and allows the firing
    of Exocet type missiles out of suface-to-air defensive systems!

    Tay trans. OR :

    En déphasant les signaux émis, le faisceau d’onde mobile permet de suivre jusqu’à 40 pistes très éloignées les unes des autres (dont 8 avec poursuite renforcée à 100 km de distance) avec identification Friend or Foe (IFF) automatique et de basculer presque simultanément du mode air-sol au mode air-air ;

    By dephasing emitted signals, the mobile wavebeam can follow up to 40 tracks spread very far apart ( including 8
    with reinforced tracking at 100km ) with the automatic IFF and to switch almost simultaneously from AtG mode to
    AtA ;

    Tay trans.
    Là :

    http://www.armees.com/armees/armee-de-l-air-387/materiel-426/le-dassault-rafale,34602.html?debut_article_derniers_articles2=9&artpage=3-5

    TMor has the same infos on his free.forum. And many others as :

    Fire on High

    The Thales RBE2 radar is of the passive electronically-scanned-array (ESA) type, like the B-1’s Northrop Grumman APQ-164, with a single power source, transmitter, receiver, and a physically fixed array of phase-shifter modules to steer the beam. The radar has a single beam – unlike the active ESA used on the F-22 and JSF – but it can be pointed instantly in any direction so that it can use a wide variety of interleaved modes. Dassault describes it as the difference between “track while scan” and “track here while scan there.” For example, the RBE2 can readily track airborne targets while searching for a target on the ground or providing a ground profile for terrain-following flight.

    from here :
    http://www.fighter-planes.com/info/rafale.htm

    So for the last time too, it DOES NOT do so by laying down a red twine
    to and fro the phoquing boat and bringing it back to the CV for measurement!

    Good professional nitpicking, Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342448
    Taygibay
    Participant

    On a more serious note, Obligatory, you answered
    on the GaN remark but since, to my knowledge, all MMICs and the likes
    in Europe come out of UMS ?
    http://www.ums-gaas.com/

    So there is nothing but development to stall SELEX or BAe from
    following soon? I mean, apart from funding of course!

    Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342469
    Taygibay
    Participant

    OOOh! Wait, I just got it. You’re so very right!
    The RBE2 can’t designate targets to the AM39!
    We use only OSF so we just don’t shoot Exocets on rainy days!

    Darn! How did I miss that!

    Good day all.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342481
    Taygibay
    Participant

    @ Scorpion

    Sure, me read endglich bad but not me fault, me frenche, me not educataid!

    I do read French however and :

    La technologie AESA permet d’envisager d’autres capacités, telles que le brouillage ou même la liaison de données par le biais du radar. L’ajout de ces modes “exotiques” exigerait surtout des modifications logicielles.
    Non requises pour l’heure par le client français, ce sont probablement les premiers clients export du Rafale, Émirats en tête, qui financeront le développement de ces nouvelles capacités.

    Air&Cosmos, Hors-série Rafale, Le Rafale au combat.

    That would be those in your initial post that I challenged
    but as low as I may be in understanding, I sort of gathered
    that an A/C that can fire Exocets MUST be able to use
    something else than a 60km reaching OSF !!!! ???
    As is the case since F3.

    FONCTION AIR/ SOL&MER :

    Le RBE2 est un capteur unique capable de se configurer à l’échelle de la seconde pour faire face à une menace aérienne ou permettre la destruction d’un objectif de surface:

    La polyvalence : tous les constituants du système d’armes Rafale amènent leur contribution, puisque l’emport simultané de missiles Mica et d’armements air-sol, ainsi que la disponibilité permanente dans le logiciel opérationnel de l’ensemble des conduites de tir air-air, air-sol et air-mer.

    Le RBE2 apporte l’information nécessaire au recalage de la navigation inertielle/GPS, et permet la désignation précise d’objectifs terrestres par tous les temps.

    En attaque à la mer, le RBE2 délivre à grande distance une analyse de la situation tactique avec identification et classement des cibles et permet le tir de missiles type Exocet hors des systèmes de défense surface-air.

    Là :
    http://www.aviation-francaise.com/Bourget07-06.htm

    And since it has only one radar then that thing MUST do both!

    I’m very sorry that the simplicity of such a line of thought
    lay far below your high reasonings because it reaps great crops!

    Sincerely sorry to be so stupidly yours, Tay.

    But then again, it bears repeating : I’m French and rather basic…
    and you know us simple jacks :

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342582
    Taygibay
    Participant

    So if that is you Scorpion, how come :

    on a SAR map? Can it simultaneously acquire AA and AG targets? From what is know there is still a lot of room for more interleaving!

    And this below from the attachment seen previously!?

    What made you change your mind?

    Tay.

    in reply to: Rafale's RBE2 AESA pic and news! #2342844
    Taygibay
    Participant

    Hey! PPP, old mate, good to hear from you, buddy!:)

    To the attention of all, the pic is at least the same as the small one
    on the comm. release accompagnying it!
    More than that, call Thales and complain!

    Ero_S ( ? ) got it right about the canting!

    I also would like to point out that the discussion on the previous page
    about cheek arrays seemed pointless to me as the Rafale already
    has AESA detectors on two locations on each frontside, Spectra?

    Due to be replaced sooner than later with GaN. ( 2020, actually, LOL.)

    Good day all, Tay.

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