LOL

@Scorpion82
That was not the friend I was referring to but i understand that my
having more than one friend is as confusing to you as “my” plane
having more than one function! Or not having “blocks”.:p

LOL

the lack of arguments and avoidance of the points I put forward shows that there is no need to continue this.

OH, yes, yes, yes!

If yourself were as great as you think, you’d have noticed that
all those nice things that you are saying to me apply equally
well to you as in :

Bis repetita non placent!

@Rhook
But the SEAD Lite was a good example, mate.
No added hardware but a nice F2 Raffy.

BTW, Rafale or Raffy or even SuperFrog the Superbug-eating
but ideally not RAF as that abbreviation is historically British.

@Rhook

Good point!
Multirole: an A/C that can do AtoA and AtoG; The Typhoon for instance.

Swing role : an A/C that can do many mission profiles with changes and even go from one to the other within a single mission. As the F-18F for instance.

Omnirole : an A/C that can do any mission profile and within same mission.
Rafale.

@Scorpion82
I’ll take my friend’s advice and let you go at it.
If yourself were as great as you think, you’d have noticed that
all those nice things that you are saying to me apply equally
well to you as in :

I already said everything which has to be said with the very first post and if you would actually bother to read and understand, rather than defending the undefendable you would have to agree with me.

Allowing one self things that one does not permit others to do is a bad sign.
( No, not you Sign, sorry! ;))
But as far as getting my back to a corner,
I’d have to be facing a real threat for that to be of any importance!
Which is not the case in more ways than one, LOL.
You should send me that through MP so has not to stifle the thread.

Good day all, Tay.

What about a Warthog battling it over the sands with an F-22?:rolleyes:

@ J-7 Hotdog

Strange, I was under the impression that the two were different A/Cs.
Like F-18F and F-18G?
Once again Rafale does not have such blocks, hence omni!
Any Rafale, all Rafale”s”!

@ TMor

As I said, some platform may catch up later…

Or they may not, lol.

@Scorpion82
Omnirole fighter, of course mate!

For the following posts, please re-read this :
Quote:
Lequel SPECTRA a aussi été capable, à deux reprises, de détecter et de classifier – puis de proposer au pilote des modifications de trajectoire pour éviter leur enveloppe spécifique de détection – some ground to air systems ( SA-6 ) que même les F-16 CJ américains spécialisés dans la mission SEAD, pourtant également en vol à ces occasions, n’étaient pas parvenus à percevoir. Certes, les F-16 CJ en question n’avaient pas été équipés, lors de ces vols, de leurs équipements SEAD usuels, à savoir la nacelle HTS ( HARM Targeting System ), tandis que leur bibliothèque de menaces n’avait pas été rafraîchie pour intégrer certainsradars sol-air de la zone. La SEAD n’était pas leur mission du jour.
Mais ça ne l’était pas non plus pour les Rafale. Et pourtant, leur SPECTRA, sans autres équipements que ceux du bord emportés au quotidien, a fait mieux que les F16 CJ qui, à la base, sont pourtant spécialisés dans la mission SEAD. C’est toute la différence entre le multirôle qui nécessite de revenir se poser sur sa base pour basculer d’un type de mission à l’autre et la polyvalence qui permet d’opérer en vol en même temps dans les différents rôles.
Tay trans :
Quote:
Which SPECTRA was also able, on two occasions, to detect and classify – and to propose to the pilot trajectory modifications to avoid their specific detection envelope – some Ground to Air systems ( SA-6 ) that even the American F-16 CJs specialised in SEAD missions, also flying on those outings, had not been able to find. Admittedly, the said F-16 CJs were not equipped, during these flights, with their usual SEAD systems, to wit the HTS pod ( HARM Targeting Systems ), while their menace library hadn’t been refreshed to incorporate some anti-aircraft radars found in the area. SEAD was not their mision that day.
But neither was it the Rafale’s. And yet their SPECTRA, without any other equipment than those always carried on-board, did better than tghe F-16 CJ whom, basically, are SEAD specialized.
It is the whole difference between the multirole that needs to come back to base and land to switch from one type of mission to another and polyvalence [ omnirole ] that allows one to operate in-flight at the same time in all the different mission types.
DSI, Défense & Sécurité internationale, #59_may 2010, p.98
http://www.dsi-presse.com

There, that should help clear things up a little!

So yes Nukes, reco, anti-ship, deep-strike, AtoA
and all as is. Any Rafale of the fleet as they are
upgraded as a whole. Sure there are pods, Scorpion82
but as shown above, they add capacities
that the bare Rafale already has!

As a matter of fact, this proves that you do not get it :

As i understand it, omnirole is a word to replace multirole/swingrole,
so it can be either a practical word, to sum up,
or pointless since most if not all fighters built today has it.
But it could possibly also include ability to set yield on french nukes, which would set it apart from other fighters, except perhaps Mirage 2000N.

Obligatory gives a perfectly valid reasoning, alas one that
I already answered when i wrote :

Anything it has to do the Rafale can perform as is and will get much better at it when the equipment piles on. I sometimes wonder if all the “E-noise”
is not a memory blocker of sorts as AdlA is only getting its tools as of say yesterday. The first Rafale NUC squadron came operational this summer
( and examplifies Raffy omnirole as any RafaleB ( 2 seater ) can be equipped
with the nuke “boxes” and thus the Gascogne will be free to engage in non-nuke activities like deep-strikes which was not possible with the
Mirage 2000 N squadrons.

So you see, Obligatory That the same RafaleB can do what the M2KN
does, plus what the M2KD, M2K-5, F-1………
It is nsaid to take about an hour plus to equip them with
the “nuke boxes”* but everything else is already there!

If you guys wanna chat Rafale only, I wonder if I
shouldn’t open a thread to that purpose, something
like : Understanding the “blockless” omnirole Rafale .

Good day all, Tay.

*Specific comm.s to Nuke Command

OOOOOOh! Nicee! Thanks Aspis!

I like the idea of every type finding a place.
I’ve seen many Air Museums, as Le Bourget,
Smithsonian, etc but this is a nice legacy to
Greek children.
Just an example, my dad flew in a T-6 during
the Algerian uprising!
Swell thang!:D

Tay,

If they distribute free beer, no wonder Greece is in dire monetary straits!

They do that in France and seeing our jolly drinking habits,
we’ll have to sell Versailles by morning just to keep on, LOL.:diablo: