^^^^^^
I know that i’ll get crucified for this but heck, being French
and liking the Nimrod, I would certainly not term it as ugly.
That is much too strong a choice of words. Homely, sure!
Why not!
Then again, that is a common British trait in airplanes!!!
I mean, for us French, building beautiful planes, the MRA4
is following a long tradition acknowledged by the Typhoon’s
“heavy-bottomed lass” figure, seen in the Harrier’s bumblebee
stance, the Defender and others before.
I guess that i want to say : save that quirky-looking plane,
( It kinda has Prince Charles’ profile, very distinguished! ).
Long live the MRA4*…way out there where it belongs!
Good day all, Tay.
* Although a tad counter-productive to my point of view,
has anyone noticed that if you mistakenly keep the “caps”
key engaged, MRA4 becomes MRA$ effortlessly???
Maybe something to ponder, I wonder…:D:D
@VishnuSom
Considering your hefty experience, would you please give me
your point of view of this simple query : thinking of the terrain
over which India has to defend itself and may have to attack,
would you consider the dual-engined planes in the MMRCA to be
advantaged in a final cut scenario?
In other words, if the IAF exams come back with nearly identical
results, would it not be logical to choose EF/Rafale over Gripen and
F18 over F16 ( and MIG-35 over J-10/J-17, LOL )?
I do understand that your M2000s perform well even high up but
apart from them, since the MIG-21s, your airforce has gotten only
dualies from the Russians and the TEJAS is coming up to boot as
a nice little single engine jet which could grow up.
Seeing all those mountains and all that water, I would tilt to twin-jet
if perfs and costs were similar!
Thanks in advance for your answer, mate and good day all, Tay.
@swerve
Thanks for correcting me, mate;
and do take it as a compliment to
Captor that it has good enough
performances to be routinely thought
of as being of a “newer” generation.
Good day all.
Comparing an unfinished demonstrator to an upcoming
block induction in active air force duty, are we, Sign?
How meaningful, lol!:diablo:
Have a pint and stop worrying about such stuff, mate.
Good nap all, Tay.
On that subject of Typhoon’s upcoming AESA radar, i was wondering
if the relationship between the MoD and the industrial consortium was
not by chance strong enough to allow for a bit of loose play in the rendition
of contracts?
I mean to say that a given call for umpteenth PESA could be dropped at
some point and changed into another call for the same amount of AESA,
to be followed by a retrofit of T2s and onward.
The customer and contractor both benefit from the change so no fuss to be had!
IMHO, the U.K. has been rather better at this than… say the French, lol.
No matter how good present Captor may be, I straight and hard cannot
believe the Phoon will go without an AESA front end for it’s whole career.
Good day all.
at jackofass :
probably an Air Robot from somewhere in G-B, a given lookalike for
Parrot’s AR.Drone; either that or someone was playing badminton
with a loose head on their racket.:p
Good night all, Tay.
Just got this shoved under my nose by our great Lord,
in another forum and found it adequate to further my initial viewpoint :
http://www.rusi.org/downloads/assets/FDR8.pdf
Good night all, Tay.
@ Arrows
i.e. The U.S. will get the best of the deal by virtue of
sheer size in a tight mili coop link with Britain.
@ Lindermyer
You are absolutely right on design but not production
The initial design (then known as the Westland WG.13) was started in the mid-1960s as a replacement for the Westland Scout and Wasp, and a more advanced alternative to the UH-1 Iroquois.[2] As part of the Anglo-French helicopter agreement signed in February 1967, the French company Aérospatiale were given a work share in the manufacturing programme.[3] Aérospatiale received 30% of production with Westland performing the remainder.[4] It was intended that France would buy Lynxes for its Navy and as an armed reconnaissance helicopter for the French Army, with the United Kingdom in return buying Aérospatiale Gazelles and Pumas for its armed forces. The French Army cancelled its requirement for Lynxes in October 1969.[3]
from : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Lynx
But I do recognize your point which corresponds to my C-3 option
as you acknowledged in closing.
I still believe that collaboration between France and Great-Britain,
if well done along the guidelines I etched out could be a natural.
Good day all, Tay.
Sorry to intrude on such a very national subject but…
I would like to remind Arrows of a missing option in his proposal,
namely cooperation/joint venture!
Bad examples of such collaborative efforts abound, agreed but…
one of your examples of success is Franco-British, the Lynx, that is!
Let’s picture a proper associative process to be built on the basis of
present furthering of entente so often brought forth by the papers.
A- What either can or want to build alone should be excluded from
even basic consideration. [ Thinktanks can muse and wishwash all
they want but real planning shouldn’t. ]
B- No overseers playing amateur cooks during cooking. [ No f.ck.ng
Nahema/Occar or such mumbo jumbo; award contracts to main and
secondary firms of repute and let them do their darn jobs, for Pete’s
sake. ]
C- There are at the very least three possible ways of efficiently main-
taining cooperation and they should be used in conjunction for best
results.
1- Creative endeavours where top companies go for broke
trying to create the best possible, sharing knowledge along the way,
Concorde comes to mind!
2- Main to second expertise downfall [ generally to produce a
“classic” weapon at lower cost ].
3- Trading programs for lower costs throughout the service life
of the equipment where you buy my big machine gun and I procure your
snappy night goggles to my troops.
Now, I know and understand that some of you mates believe that you already have such a great framework established with a former colony
of yours so I will point out in closing that the respective size of nations entering such a deal is almost as important as their intents lest over time,
the gains become somewhat lopsided, which, I guess, the rest of you mates are beginning to suspect.
Good day all, Tay.:)
As my puns in finishing my previous post should have shown,
i think Swerve is right.
There are apparently three main methods of computing an A/C’s
hourly rate :
1- the difference between sitting in the hangar and flying
2- all costs pertaining to the program ( as here )
and my personal favorite, because it makes sense
3- all costs below military management pertaining to the flight
which includes “hourly rates” of all personnel and equipment needed,
an hourly estimate of the plane’s attrition of potential, fuel and so forth.
Good day all, Tay.
Got that, Aspis! So be it, 30 Rafales then, 😉 .
Plus, with the dash nines, you can wait for the enhanced
2018 version, lol.
Good day all.
WOW!
If this article, brought by the good ZX on French forum Air-Défense,
is to be believed, the hourly rate of the Typhoon would be of :confused:
90 000 £ ??? 😮
I wonder if it strikes others as being abusive in a Gargantua style,
albeit i surmise that it might be a “program hourly rate”, meaning
all inclusive : mechs pay, replacement parts and janitor’s pay …
Have yourself a good day all, Tay.
30 T/A 50s
the UAE’s 2000-9
and an upcoming 30 PAK-FA?
Leaving a good base of phasing out/sales A/Cs
for Romania, Chile and even Argentina whom does not
have the money but certainly has the need, LOL.
Good day all.
@Nic The flux from the pod can show on the VTM.
Good day all.
The “blogosphere” and forums are alive over, i quote :
an Arabian Gulf defence source.
I seem to remember people here squabbling over named statements and now…
oh well!
Don’t fret too much over small stuff or you’ll get ulcers.
Good day all, Tay.