Hum?
2) As to price, we know that:
a) The Rafale bid in the UAE has been judged “uncompetitive and unworkable” by no lesser figure than Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan. The UAE then issued an RFQ to Eurofighter, who it presumably thinks are capable of coming up with something competitive and workable.
b) The Rafale bid in India was within 5% of the Typhoon bid – and failed to undercut the Typhoon by a sufficient margin to trigger automatic selection.
Are you sure that Rafale is the cheaper option here?
c) Les Temps described the Rafale as “definitely the most capable aircraft. It is also the most expensive.”
M’well, not quite :
A) The Rafale bid was supposed to include some work
for developing UAE specific capabilities as the Emirates
have asked in the past for the F-16s and Dash-nines.
It is on the cost of these that Dassault was stringent as
the firm already covered 25% of the previous ( up to
F3+/F4 standards ) capacities of the FRENCH Rafales.
At some point, Dassault expected the profits from the
export sales to cover the work already done hence the
“arrogance” of asking the UAE to pay for all new gizmos.
Admittedly, that problem should have been taken care of
by an “inside” solution/agreement between them and the
French govt. Good luck to Eurofighter to transform the
essay as it will face similar conditions and kudos if it works.
B) Agreed although no confirmed data has yet been released.
C)
L’avion le moins cher reste le Gripen avec une offre à environ 3 milliards, alors que l’Eurofighter ferme la marche à environ 4 milliards. Le Rafale est quant à lui entre les deux.
http://psk.blog.24heures.ch/archive/2011/11/03/avions-de-combat-constructeurs-sous-pression.html
or translated :
The least expansive AC remains the Gripen with a bid valued at 3 Billion Euros,
while the Eurofighter is last at about 4 billion. The Rafale itself comes in between.
So that your “we know that” in your post is relative
to sources and does not allow full use of “You’re wrong”
as adressed to Merlin.
Making claims on a prefered source to the exclusion of
other sources on the basis of personal preference and
calling the resulting impression facts was a bad
trait of the past and still is often seen in many posts
from either clans. Please, do not follow through with
this atavism that we may appreciate the Jackonouveau?
To be truthful, it is a natural tendency exhibited by all
at some point and not a singularity worth stone casting. 😮
As an example of how silly such bad faith is, let me rewrite
your other bold statement in reverse engineered fashion :
It’s a bit of a moot point, however, since Rafale was rejected in favour of Gripen.
“It’s a bit of a moot point, however, since Typhoon was rejected in favour of Gripen.”
OR :
The Rafale was eliminated in India, and then reinstated after political lobbying.
“The Rafale was eliminated in India after political lobbying, and then reinstated.” ???
See how easy and unproductive fanboyism is?
^^^
The above sentence goes for all including its author.
Good day all, Tay.
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