If that was the case then why is the MOD tendering for an additional airframe? If they were wanting additional training then why not state that in the tender?
This strikes me as bizarre, surely SERCO should be putting out the tender…?
It’s come up in a lot of the threads on the forum but without much detail. Wickipedia mentions it, but as per many with scant detail.
It was the free spending (defense wise) Thatcher governement that was said to have looked into it, but it was short lived with the jigs having been scrapped etc.
Around the same time, the US looked (in brief) at taking the B-58’s out of mothballs and putting them back into service.
Presumably, the same free spending (defence wise) Thatcher government that brought about the Falklands confict, thanks to the defence cuts being implemented, and the same Thatcher government that the recent release of cabinet papers etc showed the cuts in public (including defence) spending she was prepared to inflict.
I only raise this because lots of people in this parish seems to think that a change to a Tory government in a few months time is going to be a windfall for defence contractors and the armed services.
History suggests this to be a false hope.
The one magnificent remaining Shackleton which left the UK without fanfare and was never to return – and then left to rot in the desert.
It’s in the Pima museum, which is something completely different to being ‘left to rot in the desert’.
It’s probably in the best possible environment for its long term preservation and future.
Doesn’t the Science Museum have one already down in Wroughton?
Sadly, like many of the other discussions over the past few weeks, we have been here countless times before. I’ve posted links to the accounts filed with the Charity Commissioners and asked various questions here about them, with little success.
For those wanting to see the financial figures etc, here is a link to the appropriate page on the Charity Commission website where the Vulcan To The Sky Trust accounts are available.
A slight curious diversion
Just reading the latest accounts again and the financial review commentary that goes with it and I have noticed that their operating budget for 2008/09 for staff costs is £620K (as compared with the £368,468 for 2007/08).
Interesting number given that they need £620,000 urgently….
Yes, it could have been returning from a deployment – it was a long time ago, and I was only a child at the time, but they were definitely Thunderchiefs.
I remember in Aug 1990 having a tour of the storage hangars at Shawbury – I was a cadet there & at that time they had a number of ex-RAF Germany Buccs there (ex-15 & 16Sqn). Why is this relavant? Well I distinctly remember some of them had been zapped & the zap was a black silouette of an F-105. I clearly remember thinking, could these have been aircraft of the squadron I saw returning to the States from Germany many years before?
Of course they might have also been Bucc’s that participated in Red Flag…
The last time Thuds came to Europe was in August 1981 when 18 of them went to Denmark on the Coronet Rudder deployment.
That could have been it, although would they have routed over Cornwall?
Thanks for staying on thread ‘Zoot Horn’ – kinda feel this thread has been high-jacked…:rolleyes: (gets back into cave…!!)
It’s possible, I’ve seen deployments of F-15s and F-4s come up over Lands End on their way to/from mainland Europe in years gone by.
Saved me asking where it was 🙂
There is a wonderful thread about survivors on the Guardian Unlimited media message board. Hilarious….

The Zhukovsky scrap dump? Here it is in 1993…
Interestingly, the Guardian newspaper featured a double page colour spread of a Google Earth picture of the ‘drop’ area of AMARG just yesterday.
and UR as well, amongst other prefixes
Excellent, thanks