Where are you going to get decent surplus B707 airframes these days? The USAF probably got the best of the remaining bunch to convert into the E-8 JSTARS.
What happened to the re-engined SAAF 216 Mirage F-1?
The Kaman HH-43 lives on today in the form of the Kaman K-max light helicopter, so not just a stage in early helicopter development.
Ok, my (partial) theory on this one is that the aircraft is possibly ‘596’ one of the Test Pilots aircraft from Zhukovsky because I remember seeing one of them up for sale back in 2001/2 on the Moscow Aviation Group website (currently advertising a MiG-29). As it was ‘owned’ by the Jupiter insurnace group it may not have been required to be registered on the UN register when transferred to Ukraine but presumably Ukraine was a bit more rigorous in reporting its export.
Where is it now? Now that’s a question.
No, you misunderstood me, this is trully remarkable photo serie of the Su-27 taken supposedly somewhere at the Groom test range during the RED FLAG excercises in 2004. But what amaze me most is that you folks believe that pictures were taken in Nevada, regardless how reliable the source is. Not to mention that similar webpages talk about UFOs and other crap. The really strange thing about it is that during RED FLAG excercises there are hundreds of uninvited quests spotting aircrafts and bringing thousands of F-15, F-16, A-6, C-130…. pictures but no one ever spotted the Su-27 near. Except this one rare ocasion taken at a distance of unbelievable 14 miles=22.5km . Geeez…..have you ever been spotting airplanes? How would you take a picture of something you have no chance to see and hear. The probability to take these pictures is equal to a miracle or it is a simple fake. Actually, I think those pictures were taken on an airshow with a cheap 35mm slide camera, then scanned to internet and vualΓ‘!….we see Su-27 at a distance of 14miles… π π
For these reasons, anyone who takes these pictures as genuine evidence for existence of the Su-27 in USAF should be called a “blind” believer.Martinez
Given that any picture taken at Groom Lake even on the ground is from a distance of at least 15-20 miles away or so, what is to say that these weren’t taken there?
I remember going round the hangars at Blackbushe just after the Indian Spits had been delivered. The Meteor was in the hangar as well but it was before all the assorted American stuff has arrived.
Aaaaggggghhhhhhhh, there are none so blind as those who don’t want to see, or deaf as those who don’t want to hear.
I have a friend who buys and sells Migs (so knows his way round eastern built aircraft) and on an official visit to Nellis saw one of the Su-27’s hidden away. Unfortunately, he was not able to get close to the aircraft to confirm identity.
I also have another acquaintance who has photographed the mockups at Indian Springs AAF, and who also knows something about eastern built aircraft, and he has confirmed that these appear to be mockups (look at the top of the tail fins in the photo posted above).
Oh look, Farnborough 1992
This appears to have been sold but to whom?
I doubt that story already after 10 years the media would had pictures like these, if they got it in 2005 or even 2006 i would belive that hypothesis as plausible, but after 10 years i totally doubt it
Err, how many years was the F-117 flying before its existence was acknowledged or a photograph published?
And would the media really be interested anyway. It’s been common knowledge for years that the US were flying these (and other) aircraft.
It’s more interesting to speculate what the real reason was behind the visit of a Russian Navy Il-38 was to Texas some years back.
They were delivered 11 years ago.
The Su-27 were from Belarus and were delivered inside a C-5.
There was a website (Moscow Aircraft Group?) a while back advertising various goodies such as one of the Test Pilots Su-27P as well as a MiG-29UB. The advert for the MiG said that as part of the deal the buyer had to agree to providing the aircraft full time for various US government classified programs.
I was offered MiG-29s for purchase in Moscow a few years ago. If a simple spotter can be offered these aircraft then it is entirely feasible that some will end up in the US.
The MiG-27 on the Hanningfiled page. What was the story about that one? Were they moving it from Boscombe to Farnborough and what happened to it then?