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  • in reply to: What on Earth? #1392172
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    I have a real feeling that this was actually displayed back in 1996 as an F-84. That looks as if it is in the scrap/storage area now but I think it was located somewhere else near the C-46s back then. It’s probably no worse an F-84 copy than the Mosquito or the AH-64 copy that was in the underground hangar last time I was there.

    in reply to: Our private archives #1392345
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    A word to the wise.

    I recall reading that the National Rail Museum had stopped accepting certain types of bequest donations because they were usually couched in terms of ‘to be held in perpetuity’ by the museum which restricted the museum in what they could do with the material if it duplicated their existing material, for example.

    in reply to: What on Earth? #1392349
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    It’s at Datang Shen isn’t it? I thought it was a mockup of a F-84 when I first saw it there and is certainly based on a CJ-6 or similar..

    in reply to: DEAR MR/MRS COSFORD ££££££s! #1393125
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    Good to here that news. I was there last two years ago.
    Yes Visas are required. Always a nice long Q outside the Embassy, and if you are not in the door by 12 – tough- good bye.
    I Paid a courier to get there early to join the Q 😉

    Queue? That’s old technology! Now you have to call an expensive phone number to make an appointment for six weeks time. My (Russian) wife thought she could stroll in to her consulate as per usual and they threatened to call the police to have her removed.

    in reply to: DEAR MR/MRS COSFORD ££££££s! #1393181
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    Having been to Monino Air Museum near Moscow, the USSR had some hardware during the Cold War. Amazing aircraft and ideas. Shame they are left there to rot, with even the local Russians not that interested.

    Worth going there for a weekend, you can get a cheapy flight to Moscow from London.

    I think they are putting a fair amount of money into Monino now, it’s the museum at Khodynka that has suffered from lack of investment, especially now that Yuri Luzhkov had decided to build apartment blocks and shops etc on the historic airfield site.

    You may be able to get a cheap flight to Moscow but remember you also need a visa which will cost in excess of £30..

    in reply to: DEAR MR/MRS COSFORD ££££££s! #1394197
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    It seems ironic that Cosford would even be interested in acquiring Warsaw Pact hardware from the ‘East’ when a Sukhoi SU-22 exists on Spadeadam range – various
    Mig’s at Hawarden and the RAF BF received a pair of Mig-21’s in the 1990’s which they sold for fundraising .

    Not really.

    They were presented with the concept of a package of a dozen aircraft which hopefully would come to them at no (or very little cost) including some types (such as the Yak-38/Su-25 and Su-15) which were not represented elsewhere in collections in western europe. Unfortunately, it all collapsed post 9/11 when the availability of sponsorship from aviation sources was unlikely whilst the Russian side kept jacking up their demands.

    It has to be said that it turned out that they had tried to do a similar deal with China a year or two prior to this and that had collapsed on the money aspect.

    The Russian side had a rather strange view of the value of their airframes totally ignoring any possible historical value to Mother Russia but totally inflating the monetary value of grounded engine less airframes.

    Anyway, it is all past history now and I suppose I will never get my Su-27 for my driveway. 🙁

    in reply to: DEAR MR/MRS COSFORD ££££££s! #1397233
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    Yeah it would be nice, but hopefully as shown in the latest Flypast mag the radar identifier models made of USSR aircraft should fill this gap.

    The aircraft that were under discussion included a Mig-29, Su-27, Su-25, (which Cosford were very keen on), Su-15, Mig-15, Mig-21, Mig-25, Yak-38 and assorted others. Tupolev OKB were also prepared at vast expense to put on a display with models of aircraft ‘not seen in the west before’.

    Unfortunately, various people on the Russian side saw this as a vast money making scheme and would not listen to words of sense and it collapsed.

    I was also very upset as I would have got something nice as a gate guard for my driveway…

    in reply to: DEAR MR/MRS COSFORD ££££££s! #1397610
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    Rlangham.

    dhfan.

    I believe you are right. I don’t think any of the exhibits are going to move much when the new construction is complete. The concept is apparently a divided world. That might make some sense if you put Eastern Bloc aircraft on one side and aircraft of Western Nations on the other, but I think it would be a bit lopsided. Is anything Russian other than the Mig going in? However, the twisted shape, although not mentioned as part of the design, makes a fair representation of the Cold War gone hot.

    There were discussions some years ago to bring some preserved aircraft over from Russia to Cosford. Unfortunately, the Russian side kept moving the goal posts in terms of what they actually wanted and substantial sponsorship would have been needed to pay for it all and the plan came to naught.

    It was a great pity because the Cosford side were very keen to show aviation aspects from the ‘other side’ of the Cold War.

    in reply to: General Discussion #366467
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    when it was announced that Kylie had breast cancer

    in reply to: WHEN DID YOU LAST CRY. #1939908
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    when it was announced that Kylie had breast cancer

    in reply to: What's the first aircraft you've ever flown in? #418668
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    A Viscount from Edinburgh – Aberdeen and then to Wick and Kirkwall later on in the day.

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