He got it two years ago ! 😀
Do you speak about the gun gas exhaust ?
If so I of course know it got an ugly appendix a few years ago, but that one looks very different from the one I have on picture. The hole was looking downward, now it seems closed, maybe looking backward ?
Scorpion, what do you call the HLD ? Is it the central screen, the lateral screens or the HUD?
Have you noticed the new gun gas exhaust ?
Thanks for the pics BTW.
Very good job Arthurao, thank you for sharing with us.
Do you think you could ask pilots if they think that low altitude penetration of enemy airspace is still a safe tactic with the multiplication and sophistication of the AEW systems (A50 MSTY, E3, E2D, Phalcon, Erieye, Wedgetail …)?
Thanks in advance.
Torp
It’s difficult to believe that the AdlA would have accepted to buy 180 of these equipments and spent tens of millions on them if they were so inefficient :rolleyes:
Where does this rumor come please ?
Front-sector optronics OSF for example is obsolete and the French admit it. A new generation of OSF is expected in 2012.
Obsolete does not mean ineffective, it means some components are not built any more, or that new technologies are available from the manufacturer.
Your source only states they were not directly affected which we already knew, however if you think having your mission planning software fail is fine and dandy you are most welcome to, most others would think its a minor disaster if it means the jets cannot do what they were desinged to do. No amount of spinning can make this right, just accept the fact the were caught out badly, it screwd the flying up and that they need to be far better prepared to meet cyber threats in future.
You only read the sources that suit you, don’t you ?
The navy spokesman formally denied that the Rafale were grounded.
What about the F22 which were not able to cross the time line ?
FOX 3 #12 is available here:
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/dae/gauche/sponsors/sponsor_rafale/img/fox3_12.pdf
I certainely doubt the NG will be cheaper than the C/D model, if only because of inflation; lets first see if it is ever produced.
I have question regarding the defensive system: is there any laser warning sytem on any Gripen version?
WRONG, In Kosovo, Mirage 2000C pilots used to follow their leaders through bad weather and cloud layers (including heavy rain) using the IR Seeker of Magic II.
Range is reduced but not enough to affect safety of patrol flight.
You guys lake the most basic experience of military life or what? 😮
Another KNOWN FACTS Laser degrades WAY faster than IR and the technology isn’t progressing as fast either.
LOL
and you lack the most basic experience in science & technology to judge that matter. IR sensors degrade much faster than laser in humidity, laser technology is progressing much faster than IR.
Ever seen an infrared spectrum of the atmosphere ? BTW the IRST sensors generally operate in the 3-5 and/or 10-12µm bands which are not totallly devoid of water absorption and can become really cluttered when humidity % is high (like in bad weather. Since absorption is proportional to the length of the signal path, the degradation in range is significant.

Nic
The laser emisssion was only brief, difficult to detect and 95% of the fighters out there don’t even have a laser warning system (LWS). Apart Eurofighter, Rafale and some Su30, I’m not aware of any fighter having one. Gripen doesn’t for example which should relativise the claims for its superior EWS …
IR ranging has already been discussed extensively here and on the air-defense.net forum, it remains to be seen if kinematic ranging is accurate enough for target designation. Each sensor has different accuracies which may not be compatible with an engagement. LRF gives probably the best range estimate, followed by laser, ESM triangulation (for emitting targets) …
That’s why sensor fusion will combine information from the different sensors, first to confirm the existence of a track (ghost targets may appear due to a number of phenomena), then to measure track parameters more accurately. There was a pdf paper available on the web describing how measurement accuracy (or lack of) could be dealed with to increase target identification accuracy in ESM systems (was from Thalès).
A new very informative piece about RBE2 active and Rafale’s combat system capabilities :
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/11/10/318499/new-radar-could-
boost-rafales-export-prospects.html
Few excerpts :
Meanwhile, the Rafale’s ability to shoot down an enemy aircraft using only passive detection was demonstrated for the first time in October, says Chaltiel. Two aircraft flew “several miles apart”, the first using electronic support measures to monitor the target and communicate its track via Link 16 datalink to the second Rafale.
The second aircraft also passively tracked the target using its infrared search and track system and was able to achieve a lock-on by sending “a few pulses” from its laser rangefinder. The enemy aircraft was then “shot down” using an MBDA “Mica-type” air-to-air missile with an active seeker that became effective at a range of around 18km (10nm), says Chaltiel.
“It is possible now to have a fully passive detection capability and shoot down enemy aircraft without transmitting a single emission from the aircraft,” says Chaltiel.
This illustrates that Rafale can locate and monitor aircrafts accurately enough to send its coordinates by passive means only.
This also confirms that the laser rangefinder is used to achieve the accuracy in range necessary for target designation. I still rememeber Fonck/LordAssap pretending, with such sufficience :rolleyes: , that it was not necessary and that OSF could designate target w/out any laser emission. (dream on) maybe this could teach him some degree of humility (dream off)
Also the range of MICA RF seeker is disclosed for the first time although we don’t know if it is the max range possible or a preset range depending on tactical situation.
This seems to be a unique capability of the Rafale as far as I know, is there any other combat system able to do that ?
I have never seen a picture of C01 or B01 cockpits myself but here is a list of sites with lot of Rafale pictures and even some walkaround :
http://www.foxalpha.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8692&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://pagesperso-orange.fr/aeromil-yf/Rafale.htm
http://stanakshot.free.fr/search.php
http://photos.aerodream-fr.net/search.php
Just search for Rafale B on stanakshot and photo.aerodream 😉
The little problem in technolgie transfer what I see, Thales is not the owner.
The T/R-modules came from UMS Ulm Germany (Thales/EADS) and use patents from Fraunhofer/Germany.:rolleyes:
About Us > Company Profile
Company Profile
United Monolithic Semiconductors (UMS) was created in 1996, as a joint venture of Thales and EADS, to provide a European source of III-V technologies and products.
The Company has industrial facilities in Ulm, Germany and Orsay, France (headquarters), and sales offices in Totowa NJ,USA and Shanghaï, China.
In 2007, the head-count was 240 people, for sales of 41M€, serving four main markets around the world.
The MMIC are produced in France in the Orsay plant.
http://www.ums-gaas.com/ums-plants.php
And can you show us the patent
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
😮
A BPC for the Russian navy ??
According to this http://www.ttu.fr/francais/Articles/bpcmistralrussie.html citing the “Russia Intelligence” letter, the Russian navy could buy the design of the BPC (LHD) Mistral and built it indigeneously.
Leading surfaces of the Rafale still produce a lot of specular reflection
Well how do you know the effectivity of the radar absorbing material in the centimetric wavelength range just by eye ?
@Scorpion82
Sorry mate your objectivity doesn’t go further than a strong reality denial and total refusal to aknowledge when events. evidences and world’s specialists proves all your little tirades WRONG.
:diablo:You’re avirtual waste of time.
typhoon1
What you are talking about seems to be the boundary layer traps or diffusers, even the F15 is equiped with them.
No
And please, quit insulting people …