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  • in reply to: India to Build own AWAACS #2694969
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    >>>i have nothing against what u just said in ur last post, however, it is the way that u have discribed some indian projects such as the LCA that will cause contraversy, and most likely be taken as a flame by some, who will no doubt ‘retaliate’.

    Controversy is not the right word. You are using the LCA as your example. Let us take the FC1 which has she same development. The politics decided that it was not important cause Pakistan would get the F16. After decades the restarted it and not it is a design of the Mig company which is modelled by China with help from Russia. The engine is Russian and in the end the avionics for Pakistan will be probably from France and Italy. Should we say that it is a success? It is. But compared to the tech we are seing in the west it is just a good start. We should not fill 75% of the topics about these two nations poor man’s plane while when we start benchmarking they will not even end up in the middle. I do not think that I ofefnded the Indians. The LCA is going to replace the hundreds of mig21 and it is not a bad chioce or plane but just like the FC1 it is not that good. It’s like in a car forum talking about the Lada and Fiat while we all know that the topis somewhere else. It is not to flame. The Indians have many other very potential planes (take the MKI or Mirage2000) so offending them is not very easy. And compared to their neighbour they haev more money, more soldiers, more quality. The only thing they haev some kind of probelm with are the nukes and missiles.

    Looking to the China part… It is same problem as Pakistan has with India. And that flaming is the result of propaganda used on both sides. How come that outside those nations these people can live next to eachother? In Pakistan the army needs fear to stay in power (and the politicians need some education cause robbing the nation that openly is something to be ashamed of) and the Indian politicans to move the attention from other matters. Looking at the past weeks there seems to be a change of winds. Glad to see that. China, India and Pakistan are developing nations whith huge market potential. The next generation of the asian tigers. War or propaganda is just a waste. It will only make a third party (west/US) happier. Just like the Iranians were butchered by their US sponsored neighbour these three nations are put against eachother. The past was bad thanks to the Brittish occupation. The split up was the result of the UK divide and conquer strategy. The persent was bad thanks to the military, corrupt politicians and nationalistic leaders. I hope the best for the future.

    in reply to: MiG-21UPG #2694990
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    Those Indian upgraded mig21 are looking very nice. The best pictures of a mig21 probably… And very potent point defence.

    in reply to: India to Build own AWAACS #2694992
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    I am not discrediting. Just look at the number of Indians being active and the number of Indian topics here. Is there anything left to discredit? Or do you think I will b eallowed to do that? I don’t think so.

    Well there is a lot of sound about Indian developments and yes there are many developments but compared to US or other major producers they are not the top. I am just pointing to the fact that they will probably have some Indian products which will be based on foreign models so the very much Indian developments are not 100% Indian and definately not the best of the best. I am not talking about Chinese or Pakistani products here and neither am I bashing Indian products. The Indian love to compare their products.. Well why not compare them to the best? If I do that then I am discrediting? I don’t think so. Benchmarking with a weaker product is the easiest way to show windowdressing style. Or do we have to degrade every variable to make it look like the best? Gentleman, there is no second place…

    in reply to: India to Build own AWAACS #2695037
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    I think that a country as big as India should be able to make an AWACS but since it is not like making the LCA (putting some parts together with help of foreign consultants) or Brahmos (repainting Yakhunt) so it will take time but it is very logical that one day there will be an Indian AWACS. But time is the problem. It took ages to get the LCA in the air. It took a lot of time to get the Ghorskov and still it is in the Russian docks. The AWACS will take some decades and even then it will be not much compared to the US products.

    in reply to: India to Build own AWAACS #2695791
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    Do we really think that ISrael is going to share the top tech with India? It has been sharing the same medium tech with China so I do not think that the US will alow to make the same mistake twice.

    in reply to: Su-30MKK for Vietnam #2696177
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    Well Troung… It is a fighter jet not just a transport vehicle for the pilot… So you are surely right on that. But since this baby carries a lot of tropical things under its wing the question remans which weapon when.

    in reply to: Su-30MKK for Vietnam #2696258
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    Well Viatnam is moving at high speed towards respectable forces… MPU300.. Su27.. SU30MKK… What a change compared to the mig21 and F5’s…

    Cool!

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