But do keep in mind that Indian pilots do have nice planes and training. Crashing mig21 is notorious but looking at m2k and mki… Superb weapons and I doubt that they do not how to use them. But there is some truth in it that the Alskan eagle drivers kept some reserve… 4 : 1 sounds strange but it doesn’t say a lot cause there were no AWACS, J-Stars etc etc.
Is it that difficult to design and build own IFF?
IAF pilots score over Yanks
Chandan Nandy
Gwalior, February 25
United States Air Force (USAF) pilot Captain David Skalicky and his colleagues from the Alaska-based Pacific Command met their match among their Indian counterparts during the six-day Cope 2004 Indo-US Air Force exercise.
The exercise, which began on February 19, was the first between the two air forces involving fighter combat.
The score in the “match-up” is yet to be quantified, but the Indian pilots were upbeat. Several had a common refrain: “We gave them a few surprises in air combat. They have begun to respect us, though we also learnt a great deal from them,” said one, pride writ large over his face.
Six USAF F-15Cs were pitted against a range of Jaguars, MiG-21s, MiG-27s and the “fearsome” Sukhoi-30s.
The exercise was meant to evaluate tactics, training and operational procedures. No senior officer from either country was willing to go on record on who scored most points. But some Indian pilots claimed the “kill ratio” was 4:1 in their favour.
Air Marshal Ajit Bhavnani, who is senior Air Staff Officer at the Central Air Command, was more tempered. He said the exercise concluded with “mutual respect for each othersβ skills” and that it should not be viewed as a “boxing match”.
I rather go for Arrow. Same tax money but different country… π
With MCDonald, KFC and other fatrich consumptions the US planes would never leave ground… Not even with one wheel… π
The indeed opt for star wars, small nukes and… Mars… π
fC1
South Korea?

The radars are getting headaches… IAF (Israel India) do have higher expectations. But I like the idea of making it compatible with mki. The costs are huge so the customer should be the king.
What are the alternatives then? Snecma?
Totally correct that Indopak war packages haven’t been big. Just like the fact that they stay out of the civilian areas but there is also no need to make huge packages for nuking… Small formation high speed low towards dilli will raise some major problems even if they are detected… And I doubt that they will come back or will be no part of a missile attack.
The arabs fought with their heart and did bad preparation before starting the dogfight. Indeed the Israeli did some research with deflected migs. And they got a lot of info from the pilots… But without strategy and pilot training there is not much to win in a fast and complex aircombat. How else did the much better trained Pakistani pilots a better job? Not that I want to say that one is better then the other but arab fighterpilots did had some weak points at that moment. I think that it is not much different these days but I hope I am wrong.
I still miss a decent radar and canon for mud moving… Is is cheap and good enough to do the tricks but the limitations are there. On the other hand why throw cash if laser guided bombs are good enough and aircover is provided…
Then it is a top product but but it is only produced in small quantities so the success is not that high. But us return to the Pakistani topic… That isn’t that difficult.
See…:D