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With the turks joining the “One Belt One Road” alliance, what platform from China might they adopt? J-10? FC-1? J-31?
None of those.
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JL-10A: New version for PLAAF with a radar (PESA?).



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Unknown UAV spotted: http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/uavucav-ii.html
Some call it a Hypersonic Cruise Vehicle (HCV)

Key Publishing HQ is in England. So does it matter after Brexit?
Besides, if it is an actual problem then the webmaster can make the forum fully-private i.e. you must be logged in to view anything, even text.
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I’m also wrong about the J-20 vs F-22 scenario, the Block II Sidewinders have a reported range of about 40 km. Actual range is likely to be closer to 50 km. There’s also the FY-80, which has a rumored range of 80 km, but it’s an export missile and the 80 km is only rumored. The PL-10 ASR is only supposed to have around 20 km of range.
Hmmm, hold on a bit, there’s a claim that the PL-10 ASR can reach 60km from Chinese television.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c…&v=7uyr4gmPhFs
Need to check out the reliability of the claim.
20 km is for the PL-10E, which is the export version. Specifications for the domestic version is not available.
Well, in WVR the only advantage the J-20 has against the F-22 I can think of is the availability of IRST and the new HMD. F-22 has test-fired AIM-9X and WILL be getting AIM-9X block II but I think it will not be getting a proper HMD like the F-35. Don’t forget the F-22s’ F119 engines come with TVC which will come in handy in a dogfight. The J-20 also seem to lack a gun right now :confused:. Which is weird :confused: :confused:
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Supposedly the Chinese are only planning to produce 100 J-20As, and look as though they’ll have production capacity for 48 J-20s starting next year. The J-20B, the one with the WS-15, though, is scheduled for a fuller tranche of 500 units. This is just rumor, of course.
It does make sense if the Chinese are planning to use the J-20s just to offset and intimidate local powers, but with less than the J-20B, they aren’t that competent vs the F-35 and F-22. Building tons of J-20A before the WS-15 is ready implies significant wastage in terms of having to upgrade them to J-20Bs later on, and given the fineness of stealth construction, the upgraded J-20As could end up being crippled in terms of stealth.
A recent rumor also came out that a J-20 managed to supercruise for about 50 km. At what load condition and altitude is another question, however, since we know the F-35 and Eurofighters are capable of supercruising under special load conditions.
True, when it comes to the F-22 and F-35. F-22 especially in BVR while it is supercruising at 60,000+ feet will have a HUGE advantage. F-35 not so much but the advantage is still likely with the F-35 in BVR especially when hunting in packs. F-35 vs J-20 in WVR is a different game though. AIM-9X has to be carried externally on the F-35 IIRC.
But having the J-20A right now is still the right thing. It’ll gives the PLAAF at least a limited capability against the F-22/F-35. It is much better than trying to counter the F-22/F-35 with J-10B/C, J-16, and Su-35 which probably has no chance even with new ground-based anti-stealth assets in the PLA. In addition to that, there is a quite a large number of 4++/4.5 gen fighters in the region that can be potential adversaries (Rafale, Su-30MKI, F/A-18E/F, F-15E/K, etc).
@QuantumFX – I’m wondering what exactly is their plan with the J-20 more than I am about production. They don’t have it flying on the Ws-15 and they need that for supercruise. Long term, they have to develop CMCs to give it a chance for all aspect VLO. Yet they are still devoting resources towards incremental improvements in the Ws-10 series. Really spreading out the R&D talent there.
WS-10 and WS-15 are with completely different teams now. WS-15 is with Xian.
For a safe bet, the WS-15 powered J-20 can be expected around 2025. The full potential of the J-20 will not be reached until then. If this study is any indication, the next iteration will be quite an upgrade.
But they can’t just wait until around 2025. They need a fighter that’ll give them a strong edge over current 4++/4.5 gen supported by AWACS (Like Phalcon and E-3). They also need a fighter that will have some chance against the F-35 since lot countries are getting the F-35 right now. J-10B/C, J-16, Su-35 won’t have much of chance against the F-35 let alone the F-22. Officially, we don’t know whether the J-20 can supercruise or not right now. It most certainly won’t have the F-22s Mach 1.7+ supercruising capability. It probably won’t even get close to Mach 1.5. But, is supercruise completely out of the question? We will have to wait and see.
The gamble with an early introduction of the J-20, even with weak engines have paid off. It absolutely kicks the rear ends of all assets thrown at it. Two J-20 Being outnumbered 4x or more (J-10 + J-16) and aggressors supported by KJ-500 AWACS and even ground-based assets including S-300 still end up getting spanked. This actually had raised eyebrows in the PLAAF, because they may have underestimated the effectiveness of assets like the F-35. Early introduction of the J-20 importantly allows them to develop new generation tactics. USAF has a huge advantage in this regard since they were testing the F-22 since 1997.