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  • in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2138678
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    JF-17 video

    in reply to: Pakistan Air Force #2138993
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    JF-17 Block II(?) IFR with Il-78:

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2138999
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    https://twitter.com/xinfengcao/statu…41476322029569

    A JL-9 crashed on Wednesday in Anhui, two pilots ejected safely.

    Glad the pilots are safe.

    Engine failure?

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2139502
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    J-20

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2139514
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    J-10C –

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2141413
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    Are there any pictures of the J-10 or J-11/16 equipped with the CM-400AKG (or a Chinese-variant)?

    None. AFAIK CM-400AKG is export only.

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2141536
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    Lacking a dedicated pod hardpoint, the JF-17 will need to use a wing pylon to mount the ASELPOD (reportedly bought from Turkey). Haven’t yet seen or heard about its integration with the JF-17, but till Block 2, it lacked this capability or the fuselage hardpoint.

    And why were 2 different AShMs integrated with the JF-17? I understand that the JF-17 needed to take over maritime strike roles from the Mirage in the PAF which explains the expedited integration of AShMs, but why 2 different types?

    Yes, it does lack a dedicated hard-point for the Pod carriage unlike its bigger sibling the J-10.

    Regarding the why 2 different anti-ship missiles (CM-400AKG Vs C-802)? Well C-802 is actually range of missiles, from the vanilla Radar guided C-802AK/AKD to the CM-802AKG IIR version. These are your traditional sub-sonic sea skimmers. CM-400AKG is completely different animal. It is literally an air-launched ballistic missile with a speed of mach 5 (similar to the Raduga Kh-15). INS/GPS/BDS with terminal IR/TV supplemented by a “passive” radar (similar to anti-radiation? :confused::confused:). CM-400AKG is not a sea-skimmer. It is launched at high altitude and dives at the target at maximum speed.

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    I don’t know why some call the CM-400AKG a variant of the YJ-12. They operate very differently. From propulsion to guidance to flight-profile. The Export version of the YJ-12 is the CM-302.

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2141750
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    JF-17 weapons load variations:

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2142279
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    Indeed, compared to all others the F-CK-1 have 2x weapons stations for TC-2 AAM similar to the Eurofighter and MiG-31 (these off-course have 4x belly weapons stations). You don’t need draggy pylons for the 2x belly hard points.

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2142385
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    Do you mean JAS-39C or JAS-39E? Why do you think it is better by a wide margin?
    Why do you think LCA better than JF-17 and CK-1?

    Well regarding the Tejas vs JF-17, the point was about air-to-air weaponry. Tejas has test fired Derby and they are trying to integrate Python-5. It has already test fired R-73. DASH HMDS used with the HOBS missiles should give the Tejas a major advantage. When it comes to the the JF-17 I have so far only seen them carry the PL-5EII for WVR. This the cheapest of the WVR missiles sold by China. I haven’t even seen the PL-9C which is larger and has better specifications, but even it doesn’t compare to the Python-5. Don’t think the JF-17 uses any HMDS for the moment either. Things could change if the PAF integrates either A-Darter or PL-10E to the JF-17. The other thing is the fly-by-wire system. JF-17 has Digital Quadruplex FBW system in the pitch only while the Tejas has a All-axis Digital Quadruplex FBW. When it comes to EW systems, countermeasures, etc and how effective they are I have know idea. You generally don’t get much info on them. Radar wise Tejas for the moment has EL/M-2032 but will get EL/M-2052 while the JF-17 has KLJ-7 v2 and later blocks will get KLJ-7A AESA. But. when it comes to air-to-surface the JF-17 has some very interesting options including the CM-400AKG, CM-802AKG, CM-102, LS-6, MAR-1 and so on.

    Gripen (excluding Gripen NG and her variants for the moment) has nearly 250 built so far and is in service with 4 Air-Forces. When it comes to armament alone it is as if you combined the Tejas and JF-17 into one. AIM-9, IRIS-T, A-Darter, AIM-120, Meteor, AGM-65, RBS-15, KEPD 350, etc, etc….

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2142459
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    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2142516
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    EA-03 in Tibet:

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2142581
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    Here is my revised light combat aircraft list for comparison:

    For me the winner by quite a margin goes the JAS-39. In Air-to-Air, Python-5 and Derby armed Tejas would be quite formidable. For Anti-ship roles JF-17 can carry (or at least will carry) CM-400AKG and CM-802AKG. This is pretty interesting capability and off-course JF-17 must have the lowest price tag.

    SAAB JAS-39:
    https://i.imgur.com/o3Rm8qf.jpg

    HAL Tejas:
    https://i.imgur.com/AMItdjK.jpg

    CAC/PAC JF-17:
    https://i.imgur.com/HtbmVQs.jpg

    AIDC F-CK-1:
    https://i.imgur.com/5oesU1d.jpg

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2142590
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    F-CK-1 has lower TWR engines and weaker electronics overall.

    F-CK-1 looks better than FC-1 or Tejas in my opinion. If Taiwan gear wasn’t neutered it would be right up there in between.

    I completely forgot about the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo. It is a very decent light combat aircraft.

    Even if you you look at the original version, it is not that weak compared to the FC-1. The original version had a AN/APG-67 variant. It can track 10 and engage 2 targets. F-CK-1 was the 1st fighter a/c in Asia to carry an indigenously developed Active Radar Homing AAM (The TC-2). Those 2x TFE1042-70 engines can push the F-CK-1 to Mach 1.8 in afterburner. Also remember Remember the F-CK-1 started a major upgrade in 2011 including the RADAR, EW, etc. It should give the FC-1 a good run.

    in reply to: JF-17 vs J-10 vs LCA #2142872
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    Regarding the comparison I proposed “Gripen Vs Tejas Vs JF-17 Vs FA-50”, hands down I’d go with the Gripen. AAM alone it can carry AIM-120, Iris-T Meteor and the South African version can carry A-Darter. When it comes agility at least at airshows (with the exception of the classic Su-27) it has one of the tightest minimum-radius turns I’ve seen.

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