TorpedoCopter: Z-18F

Old ladies are getting upgrades:

In addition to the sensor upgrade,

052 already got 2x Type-730 CIWS
051B getting 2x Type-1130 CIWS and up to 32x HHQ-16 VLS tubes
Sovremenny 136 & 137 are getting the biggest upgrade. 2x Type-1130 CIWS , up to 32x HHQ-16 VLS tubes, 24x round FL-3000N launcher, and possibly an unknown anti-ship missiles replacing the 8x Moskit.

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DAYUM! :eek::very_drunk: I don’t know why, but whenever I see this bird, I get urges to bite parts of it :eagerness: 😉 :angel:

Well i got an Airbus friend working in China with fairly good contacts with PLAAF officers, he also states these are rumours, but seems to trust them.

😮

I wonder how/why an airbus employee would have contacts with PLAAF officers? :confused:
Did the PLAAF officers maybe indicate to them that these rumours are maybe credible or if he’s making that judgement by himself (if he’s an experienced PLA watcher he could definitely make the latter judgement with some confidence).

But yeah, my own assessment is that these are rumours that we should treat with skepticism, but the claims themselves are not that unbelieveable at all, especially looking at how F-22s performed in early exercises against the USAF’s 4th gens.

He may be talking about Henri Kehnmann (aka Henri K. owner of eastpendulum.com). He is an airbus engineer who had worked in China and seem to have some good contacts within some companies especially the civil aviation ones. How much contacts he has with the military side as well as the PLAAF is unknown, but he does seem to have some personal contacts from the military side too. He one of the best China watchers in the west.

I must make it clear again, the whole J-20 confrontation results are rumors of varying of believability. What we know for sure is that 2x J-20 are participating in the Red Sword exercises 2016, including aggressor roles.

so today, news reports say China did live drills off the coast of South Korea which include live firing tests from its carrier aircraft. in protest to Trump.

anyone know what kind of loads the su-33s were using?

Are you referring to this?

Article by Henri Kenhmann – http://www.eastpendulum.com/premier-exercice-tirs-reels-gan-liaoning

Red Sword 2016 line-up:

Lot of rumors flying around regarding the exercise. While PLAAF is very happy with the J-20, they’ve got a rude shock how ineffective J-10 + J-11 + AWACS combo were. If specific engagements involving the J-20 were against the the KJ-2000 and J-10 version was the J-10B/C then that is very worrisome. Barring the J-20, that is pretty much the best the PLAAF has and it had not taken the the 2x J-20 too long to finish them-off.

To full size – Link

off the top of my head

1. J-10 is the same size as the F-16 because of some guy’s ability to use photoshop. disagreed he called you racist
2. plasma stealth is the future and superior to physical stealth
3. 787 was named with respect to Chinese culture. 8 being an important number. it had nothing to do with boeing’s numbering scheme
4. FC-1 exports, should be by 20 countries by the claims of some
5. Typhoon will have aesa and meteor by 2010

I’ve been hearing this since the mid-90’s. How plasma-stealth based MiG-1.42 is the going to be the Raptor-Killer. The F-22 and ‘American-Stealth’ will be rendered useless. The fanboi claims of the MiG.-1.42 back in the 90’s deserve a special Nobel prize for creativity.