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It is said that some Taiwanese engineers were sent to Russia to learn something that may be used for developing a new trainer (something like M346 or YAK-130) for ROCAF a few years ago.
But as for Russian helping for 5th gen Taiwanese fighter, I think no one can help a plan that is not existence.
I thought Taiwan was designing a Twin engined F-35 like fighter? 
I guess I put too much stock into rumors.
Simply speaking, we don’t trust Russian.
We don’t believe that Russian will sell us the equipments that are superior than those Russia has sold to the Mainland China.
We have no confidence that Russian will keep the secrets of the equipments sold to Taiwan away from the Mainland China.
In addition, the growth of Taiwan’s national defense budget in the past 15 years is near zero. The taxpayers’ money all goes to the black holes of the so-called World NO.1 National Health Insurance and Social welfare system, leaving almost no money for further developing national defense (and many other aspects for building a country)……
And welcome to join us, President Obama:D
toan, so I guess there is no truth behind the Russian help for the 5th gen Taiwanese fighter?
Do they train lots with unguided rockets then? They are unguided right?
Yes and I’d bet we will see photos and videos of the the J-20 firing unguided rockets in the future too :D.
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I think they are pursuing their own 5th gen design.
NASA Global Hawks Aid UAV-to-UAV Refueling Project – NASA
DARPA completes autonomous high-altitude refueling tests – Flightglobal
Unstaffed drone refuelling test ‘successful’ – BBC
Z-10 now with the full sensor suite :






Simply awesome stuff Easyrider5258!

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It’s just like Russians claiming Indian fighter jets crashing due to Chinese counterfiet parts. It sounds more like people trying to cover-up a lack of quaility control and laziness with trying to blame someone else. Why don’t they blame China for all those star Russian hockeys players that crashed in that Russian airliner. I’m amazed Russia hasn’t gone to war for all the sabotage China is suppoosedly responsible.
That is one of the most insensitive comments I have read in recently! 😡
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Now, i have been chasing this f*cker for a while and it has been bugging me. Thing is, i have a list of documented BM frames and blue 03 has escaped me… I had 01, 02, 04, 05 etc, but not the bloody 03! So, here it is, finally:..
Yeh, Thanks for that…

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J-8II was a modified J-8 using an ex-Egyptian MiG-23. You see the similarities with the front of the MiG-23. If you are a member at CDF, there is a thread about it. The original J-8 looked nothing like a Su-15.
Unlike the Su-33, L-15, FC-1 all had legal technical assistance/consultations from Yakovlev & Mikoyan.