Trident ,
aren’t you feeling tired?
So another engine problem solved? – Link
…Recent images (March 2012) indicated that a new batch of Z-10s are entering the service featuring better PNVS/TVDS similar to the ones onboard the prototype (S/N LH981xx?), suggesting its underpowered engine problem may have partially been solved.
Z-10 batch 2 with the full complement of sensors?


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Austere,
I just stumbled upon this : http://obiekt.seesaa.net/article/123009807.html
Using Google Translater, it seems to be maximum detection range of 102nm (189km) for fighter size (F-16?) target?? :confused:
Anyone speak Japanese here? swerve?
A summary would be nice 😮
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For the very 1st prototype its quite good. She doesn’t even have the 5th gen engines. But the minimum radius turn was nowhere near the J-10. In the 2008 J-10 does it in about 18-19 sec 2010 was something like 16-17 sec IIRC.
I’ve heard the value 130km quite some time back (not sure how authentic either) and whether this for 1m^2, 3m^2 or something else I don’t recall.
Manned –
USA – F-22, F-35
Russia – T-50
PRC – J-20, J-21, JH-7B/[B]1x[/B]
Japan – Development of ATD-X
South Korea – KF-X
India – AMCA
what else?
I’m still not convinced the J-20 is an out and out fighter.
So I would be very easily convinced the Chinese have a second machine on the way to complement it.
IIRC you said that because of the wing area? :confused:
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now if what Deinosaur says is correct.. that its aimed at export.. it means only one thing..
China: We don’t want to sell Pakistan our J-20’s, but we’ll make a special export 5th gen aircraft for them
J-20 is not for sale (similar to the F-22). Doubt the J-20 will be mass produced like a J-7/J-8 (maybe J-11). The chit-chat at Chinese defense BBS is the J-20 will only be in the elite squadrons. Initially it was believed that CAC will create the J-21, a single engined downgraded version of the J-20 but it seem SAC has grabbed the opportunity instead.
Regarding Pakistan, I think they made it clear that the J-20 does not suite their needs. Maybe a the J-21 or a single engined stealthy JF-17, but the J-20 (or even only Su-27/F-15 type heavy planes) don’t interest/suite them.
IMO if there won’t be that “surprise” some eagerly await for from Russia, I suspect the next one will be yet another type from Xina, either the rumoured SAC J-19 …
Hui Tong now calls it J-21
Either Japan or India. If funding won’t be cut further I’d lean towards Japan.
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sorry…..
didn’t read the original post properly 