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January 15, 2011 at 1:32 pm in reply to: Hot Dog PLAAF; News and Photos volume 14 #2362585

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I have a question, especially for Deino

In this blog,…

Its not a prototype. IIRC this before 1991… I am not sure about the date though

You can check out the ‘J-10, A History.‘ thread at CDF – Link (*registration required though)

Reply 31 by =GT has a few more pictures of the that mock-up.

Through out that thread you get some fun stuff. Early speculations, legitimate leaks, PS jobs/fakes and so on

January 11, 2011 at 7:08 am in reply to: J-20 Black Eagle – Part 3 #2323797

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😀

Deino, the 1st one is an F-35.

PS : Few more

January 7, 2011 at 5:53 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2329685

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IMO, the unidentified engine with shiny but short petals is FADEC equipped WS-10G. 2 WS-10G were handled over in 08.2009 by Honglin ( AVIC Factory 143), then we believe it’s WS-15 prototype, but now it seems it’s WS-10G with uprated thrust at 14.5 Tons max,

Pinko,

I remember this table from a few years back (Attached image)

So is it correct to say :

WS-10 – 12,800 kgf (Also called FSW-10 and is used in the J-11B/BS/BH/BSH)
WS-10A – 13,200 kgf
WS-10B – 13,500 kgf & TVC
WS-10G – At least 14,500 kgf (maybe 15,500 kgf & 3D TVC)

All the above are by Shenyang?

Xian : WS-9 QinLing, QinLing-2, WS-15

January 6, 2011 at 12:35 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2331990

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A close up, judge for yourselves. To me, it doesn’t look like any of the usual suspects. The shiny, seemingly equal sized petals look like the WS-10, but they seem to be able to constrict more than the WS-10, more like the AL-31, in previous pics. The prominent ring of “dots” is unlike any other engine. Some engines do have ring(s) of “dots” around the nozzle, but none quite like this.

[IMG*]http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/208/271510756101013c5bf12fe.jpg%5B/IMG]

Ok now, that IS weird… From that angle it doesn’t look like a WS-10 nozzle

January 5, 2011 at 3:55 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2332853

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Is this 2002 or 2001 with new engines?:confused:

[IMG*]http://img.cjdby.com/attachments_cd/month_1101/11010522148e80b06113f29f…]
[IMG*]http://img.cjdby.com/attachments_cd/month_1101/1101052214ac5f4838b14886…]

Those petals look like the ones on the WS-10. Maybe this is the WS-10A with slighty higher thrust? :confused:

I don’t think you can just swap engines. Probably 2 different engine types for the 2 prototypes.

January 4, 2011 at 6:26 am in reply to: Japanese F-2 AESA radar, fixed yet? #2333832

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…

[IMG*]http://www.kjclub.com/UploadFile/exc_board_53/2010/09/10/AESA.JPG%5B/IMG%5D…]

Yup, I must agree with Erkokite…..

Thanx a lot for those pics MSphere. 1st time I’ve seen those….

January 3, 2011 at 12:09 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2334188

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You’ve perhaps confused South Korea with Taiwan?

There was a report that Taiwan was building a 3rd generation fighter (known as 5th generation by US/Russia).

but anyway : http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national/national-news/2009/06/20/212963/Military-evaluating.htm

January 2, 2011 at 6:09 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2334703

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So will Taiwan get F-35 or F-15 Silent Eagle now?? Maybe both??

They are developing their own 5-gen fighter. Little or no details though…

January 2, 2011 at 6:05 am in reply to: The PAK-FA Saga Episode XV #2335168

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So pretty:

http://s46.radikal.ru/i113/1012/db/935696d3fd42.jpg

Sooooooo pretty! 🙂

January 2, 2011 at 5:56 am in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2335170

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Only the PL-12C has foldable wings for internal carriage? What about the others?

Regards,

HAmmer

Honestly I have no idea. That’s why I put the question mark at the end. 😀

January 1, 2011 at 5:30 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2335334

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Was posted by =GT @ CDF : Link

New missiles for the J-20?

December 31, 2010 at 2:31 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2336081

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Also from CMF, a comparison of the size of the J-20 in relation to the J-10 and the ubiquitous JAC light truck.

By this gauge this thing is about flanker size if not smaller.

[IMG*]http://www.centurychina.com/plaboard/uploads/27_137332_0840c1e0cdae342…]

I actually did some calculations. Since the J-10 is 16.43m J-20 value doesn’t go over 21m or roughly 69 feet (worst case).

December 31, 2010 at 2:05 pm in reply to: Chinese J-XX/14/20 p.2 #2336143

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wondering whether the wing geometry is modeled properly. There seems to be a wing trailing edge perpendicular to the a/c axis, am I right?

Yup….. you are right…..

GAOSHAN has to flip the angle…

December 29, 2010 at 3:54 pm in reply to: China's upcoming 5th G fighter–J-20 prototype is ready #2337899

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People at CAC have a sense of humour too…..:D

December 29, 2010 at 5:24 am in reply to: China's upcoming 5th G fighter–J-20 prototype is ready #2338273

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I’ve been pounding the strakes as well, i hope they can do away with them.
Otherwise a very fine LO supersonic fighter, has China made any fighter with negative stability to date ?
What’s the odds they will release any specifications ? and when ?[IMG*]http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=191234&d=1…]

In another 5 (maybe 10) years 😀

Only in 2009 did they officially release some data on the J-10. We still don’t know the specs for RADAR and other internal stuff.
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