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  • in reply to: Are Wankel engines piston engines? #429698
    chornedsnorkack
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    And Wankel engines are certainly not reciprocating engines.

    Thus, they are neither reciprocating nor turbine engines.

    What are the relevant performance requirements?

    From
    http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_121-183.html
    planes with 4 or more reciprocating engines must sustain a certain rate of climb at a certain height with 2 engines out.

    But for planes with 2 inoperative out of 4 or more turbine engines have different requirements:
    http://www.flightsimaviation.com/data/FARS/part_121-193.html

    the climb rate must merely be positive, or indeed less.

    What precisely are the performance requirements for a plane with 4 or more Wankel engines, with 2 engines out? Seeing how neither reciprocating nor turbine engines apply?

    in reply to: Chav banned from flying for 5 years #551482
    chornedsnorkack
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    Chav or not.He should have his passport removed and not given back.

    As the things stand, he is forbidden to fly from UK airports for 5 years. Which means that he still is allowed to travel abroad by ship or tunnel, and embark on planes while abroad. He is also forbidden to fly domestically.

    But he certainly is not free to travel for his one year prison term!

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552498
    chornedsnorkack
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    As for the A340-500/600 with GTF: The problem is twofold (attention: here comes good information for free on the public internet!).

    1. The competitor, B777-200LR/300ER uses the GE90-115, which is a very efficient engine and more advanced than the CFM56-5B/C. The claimed increase in SFC would therefore be less. Additionally, a better SFC does not directly translate into better fuel burn when a complete aircraft os looked at mission-wise.
    2. The A340-600 suffers not only from its engine but also from its higher OEW and some other disadvantages. Re-equipping with GTF would only increase the OEW. It remains doubtful if the A340-5/6 could beat the B777-2/3 with any useful margin.

    And the A340-500/600 Trent 500 engines are in any case too big to be replaced by GTF-s. A340-300, on the other hand, is small enough to be propelled by GTF. And its competitors are B777-200ER and A330-300.

    DC-8 reengining was quite worthwhile, even though new built DC-10s were competing against them. However, the production line had been shut down too thoroughly to build new DC-8-70s. Would the A340-300 fleet be worth reengining?

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552620
    chornedsnorkack
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    But then you have a quad again.
    How would it perform against a similarly equipped twin?

    My bet the twin would win out.

    Have a look at CFM56.

    2xCFM56 is pretty efficient, on Boeing 737. But even Boeing Business Jet cannot match the range and efficiency of 4xCFM56 on A340-300.

    Therefore, it makes sense that 4xGTF reengined A340 would accomplish tasks which are quite impractical with 2xGTF CS100ER.

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552630
    chornedsnorkack
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    I recently read that P&W does not completely rule out a large thrust GTF. But the question is how the benefit compared to latest technology turbofans really is.
    Would be interesting to know if a A340-300 with GTF could compete with new twins.

    Indeed. See
    http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/03/24/324078/gtf-versus-open-rotor-which-is-best.html

    240 cm diametre engine – compared to 170 cm of the best existing A320 engines. Which means reengining the A320 looks impractical. Whereas A340-500/600 already has 240 cm diametre engine, and so does A330, so the free space should be right there under A340-300 wing.

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552645
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    All widebody designs of the late 60ies and early 70ies basically were build to take advantage of the new generation high bypass turbofans (which could be traced back to the CX-HLS competition of the USAF).
    The B737-3/4/5 were launched when a new low thrust turbofan was available (which based on the F101 of the B-1B, so again, a military spin-off).

    Which also led to DC-8-70…

    One is sometimes astonished how much the development of new aircraft is hinged to engines.

    Yes. And now that Pratt and Whitney geared turbofan is available for small thrusts, like 10 500 kgf Cseries, but widebody twin sized GTF is ruled out, would this require development of a GTF trijet to make better use of GTF?

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552660
    chornedsnorkack
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    Conclusion: if you can avoid three engines, do it! The reason in the late 1960ies was that two engines were considered insufficient for long range flight and that no suitable engines existed for a twin DC-10 or L1011. Today the only reason remains the availability of suitable engines.

    But they might have built a small quad DC-10 or Tristar, like A340 or Il-86. For some reason, three engines seemed better.

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552668
    chornedsnorkack
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    The original idea to build a twin and a quad from the same basic airframe denied a tri-jet configuration. The differences in CG, VTP arrangement and fuselage strength would have meant that both airframes would have been entirely different.

    Both Douglas and Lockheed planned to build widebody twins by deleting the tail engine (neither accomplished that). How much fuselage and wing commonality were they going to keep?

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #552687
    chornedsnorkack
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    Why has the A340 4 engines?

    The A340 has a design mission and was then consequently adapted to the available engine. The engine of choice was the CFM56, I guess because of its wide spread use.

    But the engine of choice was the Superfan, which could not be built. CFM56 was emergency replacement, and an unsatisfactory one. Let´s see if Pratt and Whitney GTF works.

    The only other option would have been an extremely derated PW2000 for 4-engine config or the same engine at max thrust rating in a tri-jet.

    What was wrong about, say, 3X Trent 600?

    McDonnell-Douglas seriously tried to buy A330/A340 wings for their MD-11 stretch. This fell through; but Airbus also might have done something similar themselves.

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #553139
    chornedsnorkack
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    Another consideration is maintenance access to the tail engine. If 2 engines are not enough for whatever reason – lack of big enough engines, lack of ETOPS, lack of underwing space – then 4 engines may be easier to handle than 3. Airbus chose to make A340 a quadjet, not trijet. Ditto about A380.

    Advantages of trijets include fewer engines than a quad, and closer to centreline…

    in reply to: Large Tri-Jet extinction? #553658
    chornedsnorkack
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    No need now.
    The trijet was to overcome the ETOPS “No twins” attitude. Now that twins can cross the pond, and the engines are getting safer and safer…..and more economical, I doubt if we see a trijet again. 3 engines is 50% more maintenance costs than a twin, too.
    You could build a twin engined design to lift the A380,

    No engine gives so much thrust. You would need 3x GE90-115 to propel an A380.

    But Airbus finds that the increasing bypass ratio of turbofans means that the fan size grows for a given thrust. They run out of underwing space for it. For example, the Cseries geared turbofan has 188 cm diametre fan, compared to A320 engines which are under 170 cm or so, and produces much less thrust.
    For that reason, Airbus patented a trijet with H-tail, and the tail engine mounted in the middle. Only, they did not specify whether they intended a widebody or a narrowbody.

    in reply to: Russian Civil Aviation #554695
    chornedsnorkack
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    EASA tests

    EASA test pilots fly Superjets now:
    http://www.superjet100.com/mediacenter/press/00159/

    in reply to: E-190 testing London City #557307
    chornedsnorkack
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    Lugano´s runway length is quoted as 1323 m. So how does this compare against LCY? Then again, Lugano is not a big city compared to Rio de Janeiro or Toronto.

    in reply to: E-190 testing London City #559134
    chornedsnorkack
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    My point is that London is not the only big city with a rather central, but short, airport in the harbour.

    Why is LCY certification so much talked about? Seeing how SDU and YTZ are shorter?

    Of course, having fewer obstacles on the approaches might, or might not allow planes to take bigger useful load at SDU than at LCY.

    in reply to: E-190 testing London City #559144
    chornedsnorkack
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    Some data:
    YTZ longest runway is 1219 m
    LCY is 1508 m
    SDU is 1323 m.

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