Cameras and screens may be common, but for some reasons 787 has windows in cabin. And not just windows but windows that are higher than those of any other jet (narrower but higher than those of DC-8). Why doesn´t 787 have windowless fuselage sidewalls and screens mounted on walls?
IL 62s, TU 154s… pinacle of classics! 😀
Weren´t Tu-154-s delivered last year? Like Boeing 717-s?
Princess specifications:
wingspan 66,9 m
reference wing area 466 square m
planned MTOW 156,5 tons.
Sounds that Princess has a rather large wing loading and fast takeoff and cruise speed compared to other flying boats.
Brabazon and Princess found no market. But were the designs themselves technically sound? (Martin Mars never carried a ticketed passenger, but it still is fighting fires… could a Princess do the same if any were extant?)
Hi all.
The A320 has been around a while now, I am just surpried that Airbus have not developed it a little more, for example an ER version or extra fuel tanks.
Extra fuel tanks would be little use if the MTOW of the plane means payload must be left behind to carry the extra fuel. The ER version of A320 is the shrink, A319. And A319 does have extra fuel tank options – A319LR/A319CJ can add a lot of range while limiting payload and luggage volume.
Brabazon:
wingspan – 70,1 m
wing reference area – 494 square m
supposed MTOW – 130 tons.
Note that the wingspan is rather close to that of Convair B-36. Which flies quite well.
Okay, thanks a lot, will the XT be certified for LCY operations ?
They do plan LCY in their design.
What does XT stand for ?
XT stands for Extra Thrust. It has the same MTOW and range (131 300 pounds and 2200 nm) as baseline C130, but it shares the trust of C130ER, so it has a shorter takeoff distance.
Did the sidewall restrict the legroom in the A seat?
What about leaning against sidewall – did you tend to slip between setback and sidewall?
Hey, I posted it first!
This is the second business class of Ryanair. Ryanair had a business class once upon a time – and frequent flyer program as well. Is frequent flyer program also coming back?
Some specifications:
Cabin width 323 cm – compare DC-9 313 cm, E-170 274 cm, B737 353 cm, Avro RJ 342 cm.
Cabin height 212 cm – compare DC-9 205 cm, E-170 200 cm, B737 advanced technology interior 220 cm, Avro RJ 207 cm.
Wingspan 27,8 m – compare E-170 26 m, E-190 28,6 m, Boeing 717-200 28,4 m, DC-9-30 28,5 m, DC-9-10 27,2 m, Boeing 737-600 34,3 m, 737-500 28,9 m, 737-300 28,9 m.
One-class economy seating up to 103, advised 98 – compare Embraer 170 up to 80 seats, advised 78, Embraer 175 up to 88 seats, advised 86, Embraer 190 up to 114 seats, advised 106, Boeing 717 advised 117 seats, DC-9-32 maximum 127 seats, advised 115, DC-9-15 up to 90 seats, advised 90.
MTOW 42,2 t for basic range, 45,9 t for long range model – compare E-170 36 t STD model, 38,6 t AR model, E-175 37,5 t STD model, 40,4 t AR model, E-190 47,8 t STD model, 51,8 t AR model, Boeing 717 49,8 t basic gross weight, 54,9 t high gross weight, DC-9-32 49 t.
Range – 2950 km basic range model, 4550 km long range model – compare Embraer 170 3890 km for AR model, Embraer 175 3700 km for AR model, Embraer 190 4450 km for AR model, Boeing 717 2645 km for basic gross weight, 3815 km for high gross weight.
Takeoff runway requirement at MTOW: 1534 m basic range model, 1803 m long range model – compare Embraer 170 1644 m for AR model, Embraer 175 2244 m for AR model.
Landing runway requirement: 1400 m has been quoted – compare Embraer 170 1273 m for AR model.
Price US$ 27 millions – compare Embraer 170 US$ 31,5 millions.
Sukhoi announced that they intend to carry out test flights with a total of 4 prototype frames. The second prototype should fly in late July.
A very practical and capable looking aircraft. However its going into a very crowded and competitive sector of the market with some big and well established names and types already in there,
In other words, Embraer E-jets and Bombardier Canadair Regional Jet. Correct?
How does Superjet 100-95 compare against Embraer 190?
I heard a radio interview with the boss of Silverjet just after EOS went bust, he claimed that Silverjet would have been in profit this year with around 80% passenger loading’s but for the rise in fuel prices. A small rise in the fares to cover the increased fuel prices would see the airline in profit for the first time later in the year, we shall see.
The fuel prices rise for legacies just as well, so that the business class ticket prices on coach-and-premium carriers ought to be rising. Enabling Silverjet to raise their prices as well.
I don’t have data right in front of me, but I believe LD-3 is the “standard” container for everything you name execept the B767. I’ll admit I don’t know about the I86 and A380 though.
LD-3 is something like 156 cm wide on floor and 201 cm wide on ceiling level – as well as 109 cm below ceiling (54 cm above floor). LD-1 is likewise 156 cm wide on floor, but 234 cm wide on ceiling level – and 76 cm below ceiling (86 cm above floor).
LD-1 is the standard for B747… what about A380?
Put me in coach….I’m ready to play.
Fuselage width is one of those issues that airliner enthusiasts love to enthuse about. For example, the 767 vs A300/310/330/340 debate.
Agreed!
The naysayers say that it’s unique size increases the cost of production since a dedicated line must be set up with jigs/tooling only for that width. And the naysayers repeate ad infinitum that it can’t carry LD-3 containers back to back, thus it is unable to maximize underfloor volume for an airline that only has LD-3’s. Response from the 767 crowd: 1) you have plenty of volume to put LD-3’s in singly and still have room left over. You typically don’t volume out a 767 in passenger operations for 4,000nm flights. 2) Are you buying containers for your airplanes or airplanes to fit your containers? Shouldn’t the airplane be the primary consideration, and then you buy all the other equipment to fit it?
Agreed!
How do the belly hold cross-sections of B767, A300, B787, A350, L1011, D10, I86, B777, B747 and A380 fit the shapes of LD-2, LD-3 and LD-1 containers? The belly height seems to be the same, at 163 cm for all widebodies…
Those on the side of the 222 inch widebody Airbus fuselage is that it has been very efficient to produce over a wide range of lengths, and for various wing/engine combinations. You only have to have one size of tooling for the barrels. And it is big enough to carry LD-3’s back to back. The argument against this width is that it is not optimal: It is too wide for the smaller A300 and A310, and is too narrow for the A330 and A340. (The A300 and A310 have to push a fuselage roughly 2 feet wider than the 767 through the air, and have roughly two feet less to work with in interior volume versus the 777.)
Indeed – it is too narrow for A350XWB.