46 passengers = 46 seats = 46 berths. Each 2 seat cabin could be made into a 2 berth cabin one lower and one upper. The same for the 4 seat cabin, two lower and two upper.
Cabins were on each side of the central corridor.
Ray
Were the berths along or across fuselage?
But ‘most large ports’ already have an airport nearby. So what would be the advantage?
You go on a cruise because you want to walk around, play deck quoits, dance, have a few days or weeks away from the everyday rush.
A cruiseliner where you were strapped in your seat and the cruise lasted a few hours wouldn’t have much of a pull.
Moggy
Compare a liner, like Queen Mary I, with Queen Mary II or a cruise ship like Freedom of the Seas.
Queen Mary I draws 12 m. Queen Mary II draws just 10 m. Freedom of the Seas draws just 850 cm.
This is a consideration. Cruise ships do not want to be restricted to a few major ports like the liners are. The option to visit out-of-the-way, shallower ports is important.
A longhaul jet plane runway means well over 2000 m have to be flattened and paved over. Add a lot of land which has to be clear of trees, houses et cetera.
A port for a seaplane using a natural harbour or lagoon is much less intrusive.
yeah
the Martin P6M seamaster, had some pretty impressive features for an aircraft of its size. apparently it had fighter like manouverability!
And Be-40/42 is quite comparable in size. In service, too.
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Is it then the case that Latecoere 631 is the biggest seaplane anyone has ever had tickets on? It is definitely bigger than Boeing 314… what are the fuselage and cabin like?
According to John Strouds ‘European Transport Aircraft since 1910’ published by Putnam in 1966 normal accomodation was for 46 passengers. There were seven two-seat cabins forward of the wing, then came a lavatory and a baggage compartment, aft of these was a restaraunt and bar, and under the centre section four four-seat cabins. Aft of these cabins were two lavatories on each side and then eight two-seat cabins. Behind these was the entrance and more lavatories, and right aft was the kitchen, which was equipped with a butane cooker. The passenger seats could be converted to sleeping berths,
How many berths? How are the berths arranged?
and all the cabins were curtained off from the central corridor.
Does it mean, cabins on both sides of corridor?
Incidentally, which bit of ‘in service’ do these paper projects relate to?
True, they do not.
Is it then the case that Latecoere 631 is the biggest seaplane anyone has ever had tickets on? It is definitely bigger than Boeing 314… what are the fuselage and cabin like?
Of course a number of ‘world’s biggest aircraft’ were marine craft up until the end of W.W.II as that was the easiest way to get a big aircraft to be technically viable.
Cheers!
No one has yet built a landplane bigger than Hughes Hercules.
The big landplanes, like Airbus 380 and Antonov 225 have some issues with airfields designed for planes with wingspan under 65 m and weight under 400 tons. If you do fly the (amphibian) Be-2500, which land airfields are compatible with it?
If Beriev ever build it, the Beriev 2500 amphibian would have a max weight of 2,500 metric tons 😮
When Boeing builds it, Boeing Pelican will have max weight of 3000 tons.
Which airlines flew Martin Mars?
(The two bigger seaplanes are Hughes Hercules and Saunders-Roe Princess which were clearly not in service)
If its the queen then she must own RCAF RAAF & RNZF aswel then?
Think he does own the Virgin Group:confused:
James
If yes, then he owns 51% of Virgin Airlines. But not 100%.
So, counting the major candidates:
Tom Ryan does not own Ryanair – he is a shareholder, but the rest of shares are traded.
Sir Stelios does not own Easyjet – he is the biggest single shareholder, but even he and his family members together have only 17 % or so.
Sir Richard Branson does not own Virgin – Singapore is 49 % shareholder. Virgin Group is 51 %. Does Virgin Group belong to Sir Richard?
While bmi owns a few Embraers, the rest are leased from a holding company totally owned by sir Michael Bishop. Is sir Michael Bishop the biggest airplane owner in the world? Any other large owners?
So, are there any airlines which are 100% owned by a single individual?
What is the biggest of such airlines?
Virgin is not owned by Branson, because Singapore is a big shareholder. However, Ryanair actually is owned by Ryans. Can anyone comment on the Ryanair ownership structure – who are the owners?
some people really are that stupid 😉
The owners of cars, or the owners of shopping mall?
And I find that Eurostar is about 270 kg empty weight, 450 kg MTOW…
Wonder how well a modern technology would do mass-producing twin piston planes with, say, 8000 kg OEW?
On 747 classic, the minimum roof height is 970 cm.
On DC-10, the nominal roof height is 825 cm.
On empty A310, the roof height is 755 cm.
On 767-200, the minimum roof height is 719 cm.
On empty A330-300, the roofline slopes between 774 and 853 cm (and more…)
On B777-200, the roof is between 839 and 868 cm as mentioned.
On loaded A380, the roof height is 1080 to 1081 cm.
On 747 classic, the roof is about 213 cm above upper deck sill. Observe that this leaves quite limited headroom on upper deck.
On DC-10, the distance from maindeck doorsill to roof is 345 cm.
On A310, the distance is 301 cm.
On 767-200, the distance is 305 cm.
On A330-300, the front doors are 300 cm below roof, and rear door is 279 cm below.
On B777-200, the distance from doorsill to roof is about 368 cm.
On A380, the roof is 292 cm above upper deck sills.
But the information which CAN be looked up turns out to leave unanswered questions, and is often information which is difficult to compare with information looked up from some other source.
The reason why 747SP has taller tailfin has been mentioned sometimes (shorter moment arm). Does anyone happen to know why 747SP stands taller on landing gear?
The upper deck door on 747-300 has minimum height of 757 cm.
On a laden A388, the upper deck doors are 788 to 789 cm high.
On 747-300, the upper deck door is about 292 cm above the main deck door below.
On a jacked A380, upper deck doors are 275 cm above main deck doors.