Another jet which can operate out of 1200 m runway is Bring Another Engine 146.
But the contrast is range. From a 1200 m runway at SL, ISA, a BAE 146-300 cannot operate at all (with nominal payload), BAE 146-200 can cover 600 nm, and BAE 146-100 can fly 900 nm.
Whereas CS100Base can fly about 1400 nm at these conditions.
LCY is said to have TORA of 1199 m, but ASDA/TODA of 1319 m.
And CS100Base needs just 1219 m runway at MTOW.
Does it mean that LCY could operate CS100Max at restricted take-off weight? The 100 m which a lightly loaded CS100Max can use but CS100Base cannot would mean some additional take-off weight and range….
Superjet 100LR is on schedule:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/in-focus-long-range-superjet-set-for-launch-383406/
EIS is at the end of this year. Launch custoler Gazpromavia. Range 2470 nm.
that the specs of the “base” version are related to “urban operations” (specifically shows LCY), so the “max” would be the actual maximum weights/distances that the aircraft uses on an un-restricted airport.
How does the performance of “base” version compare against the performance of “max” version with light fuel load and takeoff weight equal to that of “base” version aximum takeoff weight?
http://airchive.com/blog/2013/03/08/the-bombardier-cseries-rolls-out-but-is-it-a-game-changer/
The windows are not only the largest on any narrow body, but are close in size to the Boeing 787 Dreamliner and upcoming Airbus A350XWB.
False. The window size 11´´x16´´ is big, but DC-8 has 14´´x18´´. And at 351 cm cabin width, DC-8 is a narrowbody.
But CSeries specifications have been changed – notably, the plane is stretched, CS100 inside and CS300 inside and out.
The current specifications:
CS100:
List price 62 million US$
Cabin length stretched from 22,7 m to 23,7 m. Outer length unchanged at 34,9 m
Cabin aisle height lowered from 213 cm to 211 cm. Centerline width unchanged at 328 cm, and so is floorline width at 310 cm.
Floor area increased from 70 to 72 square m
Slight MTOW increase, from 58 151 kg to 58 513 kg.
A “Base” version added, with the lower MTOW of 52 617 kg
Range at 110 passengers at 102 kg each unchanged at 5463 km.
The “Base” version, with the same payload, has range of 2778 km
The takeoff distance, despite increased MTOW, is decreased from 1509 m to 1463 m (SL, ISA).
The “Base” version manages takeoff in 1219 m, at SL, ISA.
CS300 Extra Crowded launched!
Bombardier now officially has a launch customer for CS300 Extra Crowded:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/bombardier-launches-high-density-cs300-with-air-baltic-383179/
Air Baltic, 148 seats out of the 160 seat maximum.
Landing gear change
What are the changes, specifically?
EASA approved a SSJ simulator
The simulator is in Venice:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/easa-approves-ssj100-full-flight-simulator-382758/
Yes, and two of them are installed on a prototype, which has announced rollout date on 7th of March.
Has any A350 prototye been equipped with two XWB engines, and is there any due date for rollout?
I guess that the speculated all-business CS100 would fly un-restricred, in terms of payload, in all probable ISA conditions.
Does not make sense.
Compare Global 8000:
http://www2.bombardier.com/en/3_0/3_2/pdf/global_8000_factsheet.pdf
Its nominal range, of 7900 nm, is defined at payload of just 8 passengers. This obviously means that G8000 is, at that range, restricted in terms of payload because its maximum payload is 19 passengers.
With CS100, you can always pick a destination which is so far that it can only be reached at a payload restricted even from the already small all-business one. And since at LCY the MTOW is always restricted and dependent on weather, even for CS100, there will be conceivable destinations which CS100 can reach at full all-business payload in favourable weather, but only at payload restricted from that low level in case of bad weather.
So what I´d like to figure out is – what is the still air range which CS100 with PW1524G can reach out of LCY at the worst likely weather there (+30, no wind) with the full 36 seat all business payload?
What do you think would be MTOW of CS100 at LCY?
With PW1524 engines, the take-off distance was quoted as 1509 m for CS100ER at MTOW 58 151 kg, and 1890 m for CS300ER at its MTOW 63 322 kg. CS300XT, before its abolition, was offered at MTOW of 59 557 kg and takeoff distance 1661 m.
All these distance apply at SL and ISA.
LCY is 1318 m. And while LCY is at sea level, it is not always at ISA. The temperatures in London do exceed +15 at summer days.
PW1524G is flat rated to ISA+15, and London rarely exceeds +30. But wings are not flat rated.
What would be the MTOW hit for CS100 at LCY and worst conditions (+30)?
Considering the all-business 32 seat payload, which also saves a lot from the standard payload… would CS100 take off with full tanks (or indeed extra fuel tanks) or suffer a fuel and range penalty?
Rollout announced!
On Thursday, 7th of March, 2013.
Incidentally, what is your estimate for the seating of an “all-business” CS100? Still 44, or do you agree with 36? And what would the payload be at that seating?
I read on the Airliners.net website last week that they engines are to be attached on Monday this week. I look forward to see a picture of the C Series looking complete.
Bombardier got the pair by 6th instant but was then left awaiting certification:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/first-cseries-engines-inducted-in-final-assembly-382010/
GTF was finally certified yesterday:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/russian-leasing-company-signs-deal-to-buy-up-to-42-bombardier-cseries-planes/article8900900/
Ilyushin did, however, cancel all their CS100 frames.
When shall first CS300 prototype fly?
In all-business the CS100 will hold 44 pax against the 32 of the A318, considering that it is longer…
Really?
I´ve seen the number 44 to 48 seats quoted elsewhere – but I do not understand what it means.
Take the standard Bombardier configurations:
125 seat high density. That is 25 rows at 30´´ pitch – total 750´´ seats. Plus one exit row.
110 seat standard single class. 22 rows at 32´´ pitch – total 704´´ seats. The extra space goes to what looks like an extra galley in front, and closets.
100 seat dual class. 4 rows of 4 abreast business class at 36´´ pitch, totalling 144´´, and 17 rows of 5 abreast cattle class at 32´´ pitch, totalling 544´´ – combined 688´´, the extra space goes to an extra pair of toilets in the back, but in front omitting closet, leaving galley in place.
Sure – you could fill a CS100 with 4 abreast seats at 36´´ pitch, and get 19 or even 20 rows. It would be all-business, and 76 or 80 seats. But these would not be sleeper seats matching the comfort level of BA0001! Not that there is anything wrong with 20 rows of 4 abreast seats… Midwest could buy a CSeries to replace their 717:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Midwest-Airlines/Boeing-717-2BL/0905471/L
If you do want to match the BA0001 level, however…
Yes, CS100 is longer than A318, slightly. Maximum no frills seating of 125 at 5 abreast on CS100 means 25 rows. Maximum no frills seating of 136 at 6 abreast on A318 means about 23 rows.
Since BA0001 fits 8 rows of sleepers on A318, CS100 might fit about 9 rows… That would mean about 76´´…78´´ pitch, maybe 83´´… reasonable for sleepers.
Note that the sleepers, at the same 4 abreast, would still be narrower that on A318, because the CSeries cabin is 41 cm narrower. To match and exceed A318, 3 abreast is needed.
Settling for 4 abreast, 36 sleepers… what would the payload be like? Including the weight of the sleeper seats?
Oh, and of course you can put 44 or 48 seats on all-business CSeries, or 76, or 40 or 60 or any number in between. It is just a different comfort level than BA0001. By my estimate, 48 seats means about 59´´ pitch, and 44 seats about 64´´.
GTF tested!
Pratt and Whitney have completed GTF tests and have applied for certification:
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pw-poised-for-certification-of-cseries-engine-381693/
When shall two GTF engines be ready for installation on the same CSeries prototype?