RE: He shouldn’t slip away unremarked
Sounds like he had a good, full life, and did much for others. I’m sure he’ll be remembered, as he should be.
RE: Sit on my lap rescues
Moggy, I’m truly concerned. This is a matter of great interest and importance, in the study of aeronautics and aviation history. You really must find some way to overcome this constraint, and continue your research …
RE: Sit on my lap rescues
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 03-02-03 AT 08:24 PM (GMT)]Gary:
There was a thread discussing these a few months ago — now archived, but still accessible, at:
http://www.keymags.co.uk/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi?az=read_count&om=9…
That was specifically prompted by a Spitfire case, but there are references to others including Mustangs. Enjoy,
Snoopy
RE: Looking for history of Hawker Hurricane V7166
Snapper:
I have a copy of Francis Mason’s “The Hawker Hurricane”, which has a few lines of history on many, but not all, the Hurricanes ever built. There is no individual entry for V7166; but the following is what it says about the batch which that example would have come from:
“Hawker Hurricane Mark I (Gloster built). Third (main) production batch of 1,700 aircraft built by Gloster Aircraft Co Ltd, Brockworth, Glos., during 1940-41 under Contract No 85730/40/C.23a. All aircraft with metal wings, Merlin III engines, and DH variable-pitch or Rotol constant-speed propellers. Production divided into four production runs: Part I: 500 aircraft. Delivered between July and November 1940. … [including] V7156-V7195.”
One thought I would have is that if the aircraft was built as early as 1940, it would have been unlikely to be in front-line use by 1943 — examples of that age would, by that time, be in use, as you say, as hacks or trainers or on other second-line tasks.
Hope this is interesting, even if not quite what you were looking for. Regards,
Snoopy
RE: Canada Aviation Museum Collection – the Lib
Andy:
Thanks a million for the Lib pictures. (And clearly others are equally grateful for pictures of their favourite types!)
Hope the expansion goes ahead, and those rare airframes get under cover soon. Regards and thanks again,
Snoopy
RE: Canada Aviation Museum Collection – the Lib
Thanks, Andy. Reassuring info, that! Yes, I’d love to see the photos if you can manage to post them.
Do you know the Warbirds of India site? A little info about that particular airframe is here, if you’re interested:
http://www.warbirdsofindia.com/ovb24-2.html
Regards and thanks again for the info,
Snoopy
RE: Canada Aviation Museum Collection – their B-24??
[updated:LAST EDITED ON 29-01-03 AT 11:06 AM (GMT)]Andy:
First, thank for the pictures — it did shock me a bit, to see such rare airframes exposed to the Canadian weather at this time of year, but from what you say that may just be a temporary arrangement. Hope they’re all moved under shelter soon.
One of my personal obsessions (apologies for the scratched record, to to those who’ve endured it before!) — I understand they have a B-24 Liberator in their collection. (It served previously with the Indian Air Force, and even earlier with ACSEA during WW2.)
Just to add to all the other questions put to you: Did you spot the Liberator? What kind of condition was it in? Was it under cover?
(And dare I hope — did you take a picture?)
Thanks in advance for any info at all, and regards,
Snoopy
Congratulations!!
Fwiw, let me add mine … Congratulations, Uncle Keithmac; and hats off to the system that produced people who can still remember the old school nickname of every individual nut and bolt they worked on!! Do keep sharing these piccies and memories, won’t you? All the best,
Snoopy
RE: DVD’s
Thanks, Kevin. I’ll look out for it.
Have a great get-together this weekend!!
RE: DVD’s
Hi Kev:
Must have been a great Christmas!! 😉
Can you recall, does the DVD include any footage from Burma, or ACSEA generally?
Regards, and have a good New Year … with Ashley’s 5 Jan party coming up, I’ve no doubt you will!!
Snoopy
RE: Tempests
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>How many Tempests survive?
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>Where are the 7 imported from India as only the RAF museum
>one seems to be on show.
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>If that one thats due to fly is up for sale, any chance TFC
>will buy it?
Sadsack, Snapper:
As far as I know (and my information isn’t bang up-to-date), there are roughly a dozen Tempest survivors worldwide.
Of the former Indian Air Force examples, again afaik:
– One’s on display at the RAF Museum;
– Two are owned by Tempest Two Limited, in the UK (one of those is MW763, which might be being restored to airworthy condition?);
– Two others are thought to be stored in the UK — not sure where;
– One, G-BSHW, was thought a few years ago to be stored in France;
– One is stored in Texas, owned by Nelson Ezell;
– One is on display at the Indian Air Force Museum in India.
Afaik the only other Tempest II survivor anywhere is LA607 (I think), which used to be owned by Kermit Weeks in Florida. (Iow all Tempest II survivors, except that one, are ex-Indian Air Force.) The other survivors are all Tempest Vs.
Regards,
Snoopy
RE: Dambusters meets Star Wars … and 633 Squadron?
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>Waves of three aircraft attack, line abreast down a valley /
>trench.
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Interesting parallels, Munnst.
I have also read that the Death Star attack sequences in Star Wars were inspired by “633 Squadron” — attacking down a narrow valley. Have you heard this one?
Regards,
Snoopy
RE: PoC
Thanks for the thoughts on PoC, gents.
Ant, not to worry, plenty of folks tell me I’m just a bit of an anorak! (“The late Wing Commander (R) Paul Richey, DFC & bar”, to be absolutely pedantically correct!!)
Now back to British night-bombers … regards all around,
Snoopy
RE: British film … Piece of Cake??
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>I couldn’t help noticing your statement about the accuracy
>of Piece of Cake.The book and the TV series were actually
>very controversial, and a copyright lawsuit was even begun
>against Derek Robinson,the author of the book,because it was
>felt that he had copied vast amounts of material from
>Sqn.Ldr Paul Richey’s autobiography ‘Fighter Pilot’.There
>was a strong case on Richey’s side,and the case would
>probably have been won if Sqn Ldr Richey had not passed
>away. The TV series was apparently just as bad,the makers
>recieving a large number of complaints when it was
>shown.It’s worth noticing that it has never been repeated.
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Ant and others:
Sorry for the late participation and the off-topic question, but I’ve previously put questions about “Piece of Cake” a couple of times, here and on the General Discussion board, without response, so please give me some licence:
I know “Piece of Cake” was controversial, both the book and the TV series, but in your opinion, was the problem infringement of copyright (which argues that it was, in fact, pretty accurate), or Derek Robinson’s slightly less-than-uniformly-heroic depiction of the RAF fighter pilots of the time? I’ve read a lot of criticisms of both the book and the TV series, many obviously from veterans who knew what they were talking about, which seemed to me not arguing that Derek Robinson got anything wrong, but just that he was not being sufficiently respectful to the RAF.
I have read the writings of both Wing Commander (I believe that was his last rank, not Squadron Leader) Paul Richey and those of Derek Robinson, and I have a lot of respect for both. For those who’ll forgive my eternal quest for India connections, Wg Cdr Richey served later during WW2 in India, and wrote with respect about the contributions of the fledgeling Indian Air Force in the Burma theatre, so I’m pre-disposed in his favour if anything!! I just wonder if all the criticism of Derek Robinson is justified — some of it has seemed a bit knee-jerk to me.
What do people think? Regards,
Snoopy
Merlin, was that “633 Squadron”?
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>also what was the one where they were training in Scotland
>for an attack in another country I think it was ????????? –
>Squadron .
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>used mossies or lightnings. cant remember which.
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>Merlin
Merlin:
I think the film you have in mind is “633 Squadron”, directed by Walter Grauman and starring Cliff Robertson and George Chakiris.
It’s quite a favourite of mine too; not for any particularly outstanding cinematic or artistic qualities, but simply for its inclusion of aircrew of several nationalities besides British and American — including, just in case anyone missed him, an Indian. Minor characters, mostly, but shown with a nod of respect to the contributions from the rest of the Allies.
The climax of “633 Squadron”, showing Mosquitoes flying through a narrow Norwegian fjord, to attack a sheltered target right at the end, was I think said to have been an influence on the Death Star attack sequence in the first “Star Wars” movie.
Regards,
Snoopy