You can go in every shopping center around the world and see the difference between “Made in China” and “Made in France”

Yup! Over hype and brand conscious French product. U are paying so much just becos its make in France. 😉

There are plenty of sucker for overcharge LV leather product. :diablo:

The J-10B appears to still be using the AL-31F.

A recent interview with a high ranking AVIC 1 officer comfirms some J-10 already start using homegrow turbofan.

no, I have HARD DATA, whereas you’re the one showing your Pakistani bias and trolling on this thread..

here’s an article that blows apart the MYTH that the Pakistani fanboys love, which is to talk about IAF attrition rates being higher than PAF attrition rates..it shows how the PAF’s attrition rate has been higher than that of the IAF, on an average, but because of our media, its the IAF which gets a bad name..:rolleyes:

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With PLAAF of course, we almost never hear about their crashes, so its nearly impossible to estimate how much their attrition rates are, but looking at their ancient fleets in the 1990s, of J-6, J-7s, A-5s, etc. I’m guessing it was as high, if not higher than the PAF’s attrition rates.

Most of the PAF F-7PG are quite new. Less subject to fatigue and stress. While Indian Mig-21 no matter how they refurbish are still old aircraft. I don’t think it will take a genius to figure why Indian Mig-21 is more likely to crash. Even the MIg-27 is also consider very old.

As for yr 1990 PLAAF data is clearly oudated. We are already almost into 2010. J-6 is already phase out in combat. Even Q-5 is still being chunk out as Q-5I(PGM version) which basically is new airframe. PLAAF J-7G is also consider quite new. Some are make as late as in the 2003. Even most J-8F are new make in the 2000 which gives them less than 10 years of history. I don’t why u like to dig out old data.

Another thing is clearly yr evidence of PAF is bias. How can anything from http://www.bharat-rakshak.com will have the fair statement abt PAF??

:confused: sensible? Your Air force flies with damaged and fatigued airplanes?

FYKI, air frames get repaired, over hauled and replaced for MiG-21’s. There is a difference between air frame replacement and air frame upgrades.

And what is the co-relation of air frame replacement with LCA program? :confused:

Sorry, PLAAF J-7 is branded new Mig-21 😉 Many are new with less than 10 years of history.
Their not yr bison built many decades ago. New airframe are not that prone to fatigue and can pull harder G than old airframe. No matter how, u patched. It will still be a old airframe and it will still be vulnerable to fatigue and mishap. That is why fighterplane after certain years must be replaced with new one.

LCA are meant to replace IAF Mig-21 Bison.

Yet another reason to cease dealing with Pakistan.

No need. All what US deliver to PAK is consider technology attainable by China. They have been screen before being approved by US congress.

But I believed Pakistan will buy even lesser things from US and more from China as China military technology is catching up US fast. What US can provided to Pakistan can be easily replaced by Chinese supplied and at even cheaper price.

The F-16 C/D block 52 deal reduced to just 18 pieced is a clear indication of that.

Actually this is not true. If so many Air Forces would not be retiring their aircraft and just maintaining them. My understanding is that all airframes have a limit to where which they can be kept servicable by constant updates. Indian MIGs are way over that and this is why IAF is retiring as much of them as possible albeit reduced squadron numbers.

Finally someone talk sensible things regarding Indian MIG-21. 😀

If airframe can just be replaced, it will be a brand new plane and indian need no get LCA. But its not feasible to get get brand new Mig-21 since its not practical and cost factor wise. It’s not worth it.

They probably got them originally with a generous number of hours already on them. Its a whopping 12 single seaters and a pair of two-seaters. Its not like its a hundred of one type. They operate eighteen Su-30mkm’s. They operate eight F-18D’s. But the defense minister said the purchase to replace them would be able to attack ground targets, so maybe they hope to get some more F-18’s? With the U.S. not giving them access to amraam they might just go elsewhere.

FC-1 with SD-10, almost similiar engines of RD-93/RD-33.