With good long term relationship with India, HAL Tejas will be the best option for Vietnam to replace Mig-21. However Tejas now uses F414 engine so not sure either America agree for India sell them to Vietnam or Vietnam willing to buy American’s (Venezuelan F-16 is a clear example). The same situation is Sweden Gripen Jas-39. May be Vietnam will consider to buy Mig-35 or wait until India completes the Snecma-Kaveri engine development.
LCA cost around USD45 million each, I think getting F-16 will be a better deal since they are both LCA/F-16 are subjected to US aprroval.
But buying an expensive combat aircraft will defeat the purpose. You still need certain number to make up for the old one especially Vietnam don’t have a huge defence budget.
Plus LCA has not achieved FOC and still years away from export.
not sure if the FC-1 can take over the role of the Su-17M4 that Vietnam has. it uses tv guided missiles, anti radiation missiles, anti shipping missiles, and the associated guidance systems built in…
Check out the Farnborough Airshow display of JF-17, it is compatible with C-802A Anti-ship missiles ,glidge bomb and sensor pod display together.
PAF also received MAR-1 SEAD from Brazil which is anti radiation supression purpose and see no reason why it will not deploy in JF-17.
Best of all JF-17 can dogfight and conduct BVR attack plus datalink which Su-17M4 can’t…
they need to get rid of those MiG-21 and Su-17s in the long term.
Actually, FC-1 is the best option to replace those large quantity of MIg and Sukhoi-17/22 given a 1 to 1 ratio exchange witout a huge financial burden….
but given the hostility between 2 countries. This option looks very distant.
… so then it’s simply a “special treated” AL-31F/FN !!?? ๐
Deino
Everybody saw the huge J-20 take off without afterburner after a short run…
The engine cannot be a regular AL-31FN which cannot support such high dry thrust.’
If you claim China managed to get a regular AL-31FN and special treated it and managed to upthrust it. Then it will not be a AL-31FN anymore.
Somehow the logic does not tally.
A WS-10B sounds more reasonable.
China was never invited to join Sukhoi’s T-50 programme, a proviso of Indian involvement was that China would not be sold the type either.
The sources are Pogosyan and very senior IAF officials who were the key negotiators of the deal (India’s biggest ever defence programme/spending allocation).Maybe if the J-20’s that good the Russians should have been begging to join Chengdu’s programme :rolleyes:…or maybe the Russkies new better, the guys at AW&ST strongly suspect they did- (they say the evidence suggests MiG designed the friggin thing, that Russian guy photographed next to one of the ‘designers’ probably worked @ SibNIA). I agree with them.
Finish your lunch showtime, I expect a full technical analysis of your claim. Don’t hold back, PM me if need be.
China is always the prefer partner by Putin but when comes to Russian Media and Arms manufacturer. China will always be the number one enemy.
If not Putin will slap Indian face by personally approve re-export of RD-93 engine to Pakistan becos of CHina and despite lobby by the India. China is too important for Russia ๐
Back to T-50. I believe this few issue are raised a few times of unstealthy features of T-50
-No S inlet( No attempt to hide engine blade)
-Not even fan blocker or DSI(What are the Russian thinking?)
-IRST is protruding out like a eye sore(Unstealthy)
-No one piece glass canopy(2 pieces metal canopy frame are bad…)
Look at this, this is horrible for stealth
COmpare to this
Or the J-20
Yup, T-50 maybe a proto type and Russia is going to come out a stealthier one later but I bet a redesign into S inlet sounds impossible with this T-50 as guideline….
Are Indian really going to pay billions for this T-50 design? Are you serious????
Ok, and what have you seen?
Because all i see is a potentially overweighty plane, with the worst bomb bay placement for such configuration.
****
Other than that , is interesting how quiet is the people about canards…I mean since canards were always been shown as a sin for the stealth thingy (even worse than the curse of lacking the holy s-duct)…is amusing that I don’t see a horde of kids yelling for these canards…wonder if most people online are chinese internet cowboys..
What do u think is the most important aspect of a 5th gen fighter?
And the propaganda in between that and before the emergence of the J-20 was China was begging to be a part of the PAK-FA but was turned down.
Sorry,that was not propaganda must just some true facts. As for why T-50 is inferior. I will prove it later after I finish my lunch.
Oh, after MiG lost the PAK-FA tender they lobbied the IAF hard for the LMFS which also lost-out to Sukhoi’s T-50, and guess what?
Do u know chinese was the first choice as partner for Sino russia PafKa project but china reject Russia proposal and decide to go for their own 5th gen program. So India pick up where china discarded. and I am very sure it is a correct decision based on what we have seen so far from T-50 vs j-20.
Qualitatively and capability wise the IAF is way ahead of the PRC today. By 2025 (if all goes as planned) it’ll be second only to the USAF. The J-20 won’t change that- but a lifting of the arms embargo might (i.e. not likely).
As for the ACM, rather rash statements (probably juiced-up by the journo) who knows, maybe the ACM’s seen the E-721 ๐ (:p).
LOL.. 2nd to USAF? How about 2999 then IAF will realise that dream to be second?
long live the Israeli olympic power house
Many of the Russian, USA, France and Australia Gold Medalist has the Jew origin ๐
I find the ACMs comments in bad taste, its something you expect from a journalist.
I doubt IAF has an inferiority complext at present as it has a qualitative advantage over PLAAF at the moment, it may not be maintainable in future, but at the moment it is there.
I do not agree with yr statement of IAF has any quality or quantity over PLAAF.
But let just leave it to each individual opinion and no further.
Sorry, but thatโs plain stupid …. and as such that’s simple and clear !
1. this statement is simply politically motivated, heโs stupid or he doesnโt understand anything in that matter … to think that such a project can be successfully completed simply by “stealing” technology or ideas is beyond anything !
2. he’s jealous or envious, since this clearly shows how much the Indian projects are behind !
3. heโs angry since he realizes that if the Indian system of R&D โ especially these long delaying political process behind (if ethically more correct) – wonโt be changed dramatically, the technically most advanced indigenous project will be the Tejas Mk. 2 at about the same time, when the J-20 is rolling off the production line.
Really … a very funny – but sad at the same time – joke for this morning.
Deino
Agree.. If J-20 can come together without R&D and just cut and paste. Then Chinese must have attain God’s level..
Then the Indian needs to kudos to the God! :diablo:
IAF claims there is no Chinese R&D involved in J-20.
This is what called ‘ Jealousy’ ๐
This is also what called ‘Smearing’
I am surprised this comment comes from a country Air Chief Marshal..
This kind of comment shall reserve for Tom,Dick,Harry journalist or layman. :diablo:
I’d be interested in seeing it tested against a 30-40 knot target.
Even though it is a stangnant target. Hitting it with A ballistic missile is already an achievement.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/164109.html
Iran has successfully test fired a supersonic anti-destroyer ballistic missile, called the Persian Gulf, which is capable of targeting different warships.
Commander of the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Brigadier General Mohammad Ali Jafari announced the successful mission in a press conference on Monday, saying that the new radar-evading missile is in mass production stage, Fars News Agency reported.
IRGC Air Force Commander Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh also explained that the Persian Gulf is a “supersonic and anti-warship” missile.
“The new missile’s difference with other missiles is that it is a surface-to-sea missile and is capable of vertically hitting every enemy warship or speedboat,” Hajizadeh said.
“The operational range of the missile is 300 kilometers and the warhead contains 650 kilograms of explosives,” the IRGC commander added.
The Persian Gulf missile has a combined guidance system, which locks the target in the final stage and makes evasion impossible, the commander said.
“The fuel of the Persian Gulf missile is solid and it has been designed by the IRGC’s Aerospace Research Center and produced by the Defense Ministry,” Hajizadeh concluded.
In September 2009, Iran successfully test fired long-range Shahab-3 missile which can hit targets up to 1,250 miles (2000 km) and is capable of carrying a 1,000-760 kilogram warhead.
Iran had earlier produced Shahab-1 and Shahab-2 medium-range missiles with multiple warheads capable of hitting targets between 185 and 435 miles (300 and 700km).
The Islamic Revolution Guards Corps also produced three short-range missiles — Tondar-69, Fateh-110 and Zelzal.