J10A HAS A NUMBER OF PROBLEM IN DESIGN
J10A HAS A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS IN DESIGN
A source from the military industry emphasized that J10A has a number of problems in design. For example, as the fighter was fitted with AL31FN engine in the middle of the development projects, the weight and size of the engine were larger than the original design, which made the air-intake section not strong enough. To solve the problem, three reinforcing bands were added between the air-intake and the fuselage. “This is a biggest design failure for the J10”, the source added.
Another source said that the J10A fighter has entered batch production since this year. At present, the second production line is under construction. 132 Factory plans to attain an annual output of 50 J10A fighters after the production of the fighter turns onto the regular track. The Air Force has expressed that they are satisfied with the performance of the J10A fighters currently in service. There has been no accident reported so far.
(For further story, please read monthly Kanwa Defense Review October issue.)
Any one has full acess?
Double post!! Pls check before posting!
JH-7A got an engine production problem … Su-34 is a backup …
H-6 is still making in city of xi`an, it is the only one chinese made big platform fits many needs.
It is reported that Harpy had been returned without any upgrade.
JH-7A? JH-7A engine problem is solved witha indigenous engine.I heard they r producing so many JH-7A like hotcakes! The only indigneous engine problem not solved yet is the J-10 which will be still using the AL-31FN.
And are these submarines for Israel coming FREE??? …… they managed to get the German tax-payers pay for the earlier 3 subs ….
War-crime atonement!
trying to RE or building a derivatine of the backfire will take many years, not to meantion extremely expensive. so by the time the PLAAF have their own production Tu22Ms, the design would again be obsolete. a very high price to pay for a slightly less obsolete ac type then the one they already got. :rolleyes:.
Money? China got plenty!!! As u mention B-52,why B-52 a bomber in the 50’s still highly value by the US? Continue update makes it survive today! U can say abt the Backfire.What China need to master Backfire is the design,engines! System? China may update itself by the time a indigenous Tu-22 produce
the most important aspects of a bomber are its range, payload and speed.
the range of the H6s are sufficient for the job at hand, and while their payload leaves much to be desired, for the kind of money you need to RE and produce backfires, you can build enough H6s to carry far more bombs.
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That’s right! Tu-22M got a speed of 2Mach while H-6 got a 0.9Mach.Tu-22M Range and payload r way ahead of H-6! Tu-22M survivibility is higher as PLAAF still do not possess the air superiority of USAF! Which they can afford to escort a slow B-52 bomber!
in this day and age, the weapons a bomber can carry is far more important then the bomber itself. just look at the B52! the PLAAF will probably be interested in the advanced weapons the russian backfires can use (well, some of them anyways), but its doubtful whether the russians will release them..
I don’t think weapon is a problem! Just seen a YJ-12 SSM photo.YJ-12 spec may be 300km and speed 3M. Imagine Tu-22M carries 4 YJ-12
if the russians do allow for the PLAAF to take their pick of weapons to go with the Tu22M, the PLAAF will probably buy the plane, but for the weapons instead of the plane itself. so some years down the line, you’d see the backfires in museums, while H6s will still be trotting about with their new found toys.
OMG! H-6 design is earlier than Tu-22M.How can Tu-22M (70’s)gone first than H-6(50’s)? Whay logic is that?
because there isnt that good a chance of the PLAAF really buying the plane.
the chinese have shown time and again that they value ToT just as much, if not more so then the actaul hardware itself. so unless the russians are willing to also throw in a production line and blue prints, its unlikely the PLAAF will be that interested.
as the artical already states, production of the type has ended, so spare parts is always going to be a major concern. even more so seeing the russians will probably only offer their older ac, which wont have that many hours left in them anyways.
there’s also the political consquences to consider, as the arrival of the backfires will likely spark major concerns and purhaps even an arms race with the neighbours, not to meantion the US.
I think not! China will buy Backfire but not in large number(4-8).They know the Russian will sell them old stock with only few hundreds of flying hour left.So they buy small number for evaluation and try to intergrate into their own design or purely Reverse Engineer! Few yrs ago,they try to buy Backfire but was rejected.I bet they still have problem trying to build their version of new Strategic bomber with the obsolete H-6 still in production line! Backfire possess the payload ,speed and range not available in PLAAF inventory! Backfire will definitely be valuable for PLAAF.
The info is correct! 3 FAC launch so far from ,seen other forum(2208,2209,2210)
well i think that was the idea behind choosing a chinese radar and avionics (for the early ac at least anyways). the radar and avionics going into the FC1 will most likely be pull out of the J10 programme with only some small changes. this should means that the FC1 can now benefit form the J10’s weapons intergration tests – ie the weapons are already fully intergrated to the radar and avionics even before they were installed into the prototypes!
the only thing left to do is ironing out any last minute bugs and test the ac’s handling with the weapons to devise a flight envelop. then they should be able to ‘fast forward’ through the test firing stages, unless something goes wrong, and the ac should be ready.
this is almost certainly the reason behind the FC1’s planned delivery date being so close.
the idea should basically be to get the plane into PAF hands ASAP so they can start pilot conversion and to reach initial combat readiness to plug the PAF’s BVR hole in the shortest time frame.
in the meanwhile, ‘proper’ intergration of the PAF’s ‘ideal’ radar and avionic suit would take place at chengdu. this is probably what the FC1B is, and would most likely take alot longer to get everything sorted.
its also somewhat interesting that the planned start time for the FC1B is shortly after the precieved date the EU is planning on lifting its arms ban against china. so if the deal falls through, there is the chance of the FC1B being delayed or changed.
So many talk abt the aircraft itself.How abt another important thing ,the BVRAAM SD-10,r there any news China is going to export how many SD-10 and is Pakistan satisfy with the performance and spec of SD-10?
Great close up photo of FC-1




Euro,Russia,US SAM system? Super complicated!!! :confused:
Flying with SD-10 BVRAAM? I heard FC-1 sales is in jeopardy with Russia refuse to licence RD-93 engines to Pakistan.R China producing their own version of RD-93?
http://www.mosnews.com/money/2005/01/13/chinabombers.shtml
Russia May Sell Bomber Aircraft to China — Air Force Chief
Created: 13.01.2005 13:12 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 13:55 MSKMosNews
The chief of the Russian Air Force, Vladimir Mikhailov, said on Thursday, Jan. 13, that the Russian military could sell a number of Tu-22M3 and Tu-95 bomber aircraft to China.Speaking at a press conference at the Interfax-Army News agency Mikhailov said: “We could sell to China a part of our stock of Tu-22M3 and Tu-95 strategic bombers.”
Answering a question whether there are any specific plans for such a sale, the Air Force chief said: “We will show the planes at the joint military exercise, so that the Chinese become interested. If they have the money, let them buy [the bombers].”
As MosNews reported in December, Russia and China announced their intention to hold joint military exercises on Chinese territory sometime in 2005. The announcement was made during the official visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov to Beijing. The visit came in the wake of the European Union’s decision not to lift the 15-year-old arms export embargo that was imposed on China in 1989.
The EU’s decision presented a clear opportunity for Russia to solidify its position as China’s biggest supplier of weapons and technology.
Time to request for Akula and Kirov!!!
527 come out of refit yard.Wondering where is the HQ-7 missiles? (Replace with VLS?)
I suggest Hong Kong.
Hong Kong got PLAAF
Mass production of JH-7A and H-6 for war

We did a whole post on this a little while back, if you look carefully you can see the Thai flag on the main gun.
What I want to know is, what the blazzes is it doing so close to the shore? It looks like it’s run aground.
Tsunami!!!