By “electro-optical pods” are you referring to the ball mounted below the nose?
yup.
Only reference I could find was this:
http://aviationweek.com/awin/hal-deliver-more-dhruv-mk-3-helicopters-0βThe Mk. 3 sports a new electronic warfare suite, advanced laser warning systems, missile warning systems and electro-optical pods. It has a new-generation vibration-control system in place along with the glass cockpit. It also has an automatic chaff-and-flare dispenser,β the official says.
Ah..thanks for the link! So the EO pod is now standard equipment for the Dhruv Mk3s that will be coming out of HAL.
The current JAS39E has a wide-angle AESA, which was not part of the original scheme, and a much improved EW kit in wingtip mounts. Both are weight-adding items. Major structure has also been revised to reduce costs, and there is no sign that the weight increases have taken place after the signature of development contract.
So this is not a comparable situation to an aircraft that has experienced 10-15 per cent OEW growth since the signature of the development contract, with no increase in performance or upgrade to spec, and despite a major redesign that is leaving a legacy of structural problems.
The ES-05A Raven has been in works for a long time and mounting/cooling requirements for it and for the EW wingtip pods won’t add a 1000 kgs to the airframe.
Fact is that Saab was marketing the NG/Gripen E to its customers in 2008-9 with the empty weight being quoted as 7100 kgs. And now, with the SwAF being a firm customer and the FAB being a very likely customer, the actual specs have been firmed up. And it is now that with the design being much firmer, that the engineers can give the actual figures, versus the very ambitious targets that would have been set up during the preliminary design phase.
Do we have any firm reports saying the Ah-64s will replace the Mi-24/35. Perhaps IAF may keep both? The Mi-24/35 did go through an extensive Israeli modernization after all.
but those were primarily avionics modernization programs, weren’t they? Without structural upgrades, those Mi-24/35s will eventually run out of service life..and with a large number of LCH gunships also in the pipeline, the IA may look to retire these when it can afford to do so.
There are various Marks of Dhruv. Mk1, Mk2, Mk3 and Dhruv WSI.
IIRC (Black Archer may know more), Mk3 & Dhruv WSI have EO pods.
Teer, I wasn’t aware of the Dhruv Mk3 having the EO pods..thought those were only on the Rudra gunship variant. Perhaps I wasn’t paying close attention. π
Pics of IN MiG-29K at the newly constructed Shore Based Test Facility at Dabolim, Goa
Japan’s new rules don’t allow exports of everything to anyone & everyone. Only NATO members & countries in a similar alliance (i.e. Australia & New Zealand, maybe Singapore) are pretty much unrestricted. Thus, Australia is now at much the same level as the USA as far as Japanese arms exports are concerned, & “even the Aussies’ is therefore inappropriate. I’m afraid they’re ahead of you in the queue. You’d have to change your foreign & military policies considerably to get their status.
The “even the Aussies” wasn’t meant as a snub. As for being ahead in the queue, there is no queue so far. It’s only Australia that is interested in them so far. India hasn’t evinced any interest in the Soryu and if it requires changes to the foreign and military policies to get their “status” then I’m afraid it just won’t fit the bill.
Yup sure let’s see how long this troll avoids polluting the IAF thread.
Can someone clarify the state of India’s submarine acquisition programs in light of this recent ToI article?
This seems ass-backward. Surely the aforementioned 7-year delay would increase the case for purchasing at least some units directly from abroad. :confused:
but it won’t satisfy a govt. which wants the maximum amount of defence work to be done within the country. And to pacify them, the IN must have figured out that it could offer up the 2 subs that were to be built at the foreign yard, to the Indian yards.
In the meantime, there have been rumours of a possible hurried purchase of 2 Amurs from Russia directly. That may give them some breathing space. If the GoI agrees to that proposal, they may want all the P-75I boats to be built at Indian yards as a trade-off.
Which brings me to the P-75I program- why isn’t the Soryu a part of the tender? Even the Aussies now seem to be intent on replacing the Collins class subs with the Soryu..
AFM will be doing a report on this exercise (Alan Warnes is in Pakistan right now). As I said, 20 odd Chinese pilots did not come over to Pakistan with just 2 planes. It is a matter of time before you will be proved wrong (as you seem to be constantly), so lets wait, I would not assume anything if I were you, not after your past mistakes…….
oh and BTW, did Alan Warnes come up with that article on Exercise Shaheen to prove your claim that more than 1 J-10 and 1 J-7 participated from the PLAAF side? Been quite a few months hasn’t it?
As can be seen from the images below, clearly the Gripen team weren’t able to meet the empty weight goals that were set early in the program..5 years later, they’re nearly 1000 kgs over the initial estimate. Of course, the marketing team back then didn’t call it a target empty weight– rather they just called it the empty weight. The payload for the Gripen E, now with full internal fuel is now 5100 kgs, i.e. 16500-(8000 + 3400). Still respectable, but a full 909 lbs less than what the claim was in 2009.
Swerve, it doesn’t seem to be scope creep. They’re not claiming any new features for the Gripen E that weren’t being claimed in 2009. What it is, is simply reconciling with reality after having set wildly ambitious targets.
So if I were a customer who signed on based on those specs, I’d have every right to be upset- after all my chosen fighter would be now carrying a 1000 kgs less payload than I was assured when I bought it.
But no one did sign on to the Gripen NG program back then- they waited for the Gripen Demo to fly, and for the NG program to attain some level of maturity. And rightly so, since there really are differences between paper specs and reality.
Mind you, I’m not knocking on the Gripen E. I still feel it’s a mighty impressive fighter jet with a host of things going for it and I personally believe that for Brazil, it is the best option.