I was not sure at the beginning but now it seems quite clear.. much of that is India’s fault.. you are unable to operate pretty much any aircraft beyond the ~65% serviceability rate, not MiGs, not Sukhois, not Jags, not Hawks, nothing.. Good luck trying to blame others but whenever India is discussed, we always end up with bureaucracy, lack of planning, flawed contracts and delayed deliveries.

And frankly, I don’t give sh!t for a second whether you take offense to that.. I won’t call snow black just to satisfy your nationalistic jingoism..

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/HAL-production-under-lens-after-Hawk-trainer-crash/articleshow/47952421.cms

Butt hurt, obviously. “overhaul does not equate to maintenance”.. lol..

whatever, one more worthless POS added to the ignore list.

I have witnessed Indian corruption first hand. I also have seen how some companies handle their production and how well maintained their facilities are. Some good, some real bad.

So are you implying that corruption is an Indian phenomenon? Where are you from by the way? Some corruption free country is it? My guess is you won’t disclose it.

But answer me this, if the Russians and others who have used similar aircraft have not mentioned such issues, but India has, as well as having a history of using both east and west jets with spotty maintenance and serviceability, gives me a clearer picture. Calling a horse for what it is.

As Austin mentioned in an earlier post of his, the fact that organizations like the CAG exist, whose audit reports are made public is not something that all nations have. If you’re implying that the RuAF and RuN have glitch-free operations or that their serviceability for their fleets is very high, then post the proof of that. Not sure you’ll have any of that.

I don’t care if you want to complain thinking many of us are shifting blame to India. But you have not brought anything forward as I have went through this thread.

You’re doing that without ANY EVIDENCE that it is the IN’s fault !! Pure conjecture, based on stereotypical notions. Excuse me if I take offense to that.

I personally think you know diddly squat just about anything discussed here.. Next time, please get TF out of my way and don’t talk to me.. I will do the same..

Pot calling the kettle black..

I don’t take any pleasure in talking to you and I mostly ignore the stuff you write, at least those related to the IAF or IN. But you wade into topics that you haven’t the foggiest idea about, and then expect others not to engage you. Why not just keep quiet or ask in a manner that isn’t condescending or demeaning?

cross posting from the IN thread..

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Calm down, will you? Asking a question does not equal to pointing fingers.. BTW, it did not escape me that you actually seem to have zero idea about the reasons either and simply want to accuse someone else, for all what’s worth… Next time, restrain from answering if that’s all you can provide..

I don’t have any idea about the exact reasons but nor do you. Yet, you go the extent of suggesting that India might be choosing “cheap maintenance practices” with zero evidence of that. I merely showed that India has been investing steadily in spares support for its Russian sourced fleet. Next time, restrain from making flame bait comments if you have no other evidence to back it up.

You said that there is no evidence that India has local maintenance set up for the MKI fleet and that was proven to be wrong, so now you take a new tack.

Overhaul does not equal maintenance.. And HAL does not equal IAF.. It doesn’t help squat that HAL are able to overhaul Sukhois (they actually make them, so that’s logical) if there’s spares shortage with IAF, logistics is failing or deals get protracted as we have seen many times..

Overhaul is deep maintenance. You tell us that a firm can carry out MRO activities and still doesn’t carry out maintenance? 😀 You know diddly squat about the exact reasons for the low availability, but hey those Indians must be skimping on spares just because you feel so.