Here is an obscure question, but has anybody ever looked into ditching trials locations?
Can’t help feeling we put a few on the bottom on purpose….
Guy
Sounds like a good question to me Guy
Some very interesting thoughts there Ross and it would of taken me ages to work out an overview like that so big thanks. As you say mud is the enemy in estuaries and even with a sub bottom you need a tight search area otherwise you will be finding bedsteads an all manner of junk that you have to put a lot of effort into digging for. Glad you survived a days diving with me and I might well be in touch with regard to your offer, cheers again.
To use a forum phrase..
It’s all in the book
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2251377/Aircraft-Crash-Sites-at-Sea-a-Scoping-Study-project-report
I see that you are also listed as one of the contributors to the survey.
My numbers included inland water losses.
Regards
Ross
Yes Ross quite right we did along with yourself and many others contribute to the aircraft losses at sea study. We have many years experience in the English Channel but absolutely zero in fresh water. A lot of our equipment sits idle in periods of bad weather and our lovely winters, would be nice to put it to some use on a worthwhile project and that is my question. What if anything would the aviation world consider worth looking for? May be I didn’t make that clear enough.
Yes Simon is right it is a real shame what trawling does. Only a couple of weeks ago this turned up on Weymouth Quay.
http://www.theshipwreckproject.com
Thanks to all, email sent Elliott with the info you were after and thanks Alan I think the St Albans head one is out, the Channel one however ties up with something I was told a while back about a mid air collision and a pilot being picked up by a dockyard tug. Not going to draw any conclusions yet but will be chasing this one down. As a result of this thread it looks likely the tail wheel assembly will end up in a museum which in my opinion is just where it should be, fantastic! The sidescan image I thought might interest some and shows the main area of wreckage including engine, wing section, main undercarriage and a mass of debris. To give you an idea of scale it is 100 metres from left to right. Sadly the scan loses some of its detail due to the resolution but it gives you an idea of what you can expect to see. Was supposed to be across the Channel but hey ho good old British weather!!
Off to Brittany early in the morning Elliott, will be in touch when I get back late in the weekend.
Cheers
G
Certainly Thunderbolt
Cheers
G
Here is the wheel assembly and before someone says what are you doing recovering parts of a military aircraft? Let me explain. We are carrying out a high resolution sidescan survey in a particular area that contains at least one Napoleonic shipwreck (Diver Tony Rocketeer some news about this in the latest edition of Dive and if you want to dive an aircraft please get in touch) We found the wheel one of dozens of anomalies hundreds of metres away from the main wreck site and due to its condition (excellent considering)and the fact we cleaned up the wheel rim underwater and it said Shinn & co we thought this might be from a commercial aircraft as initially looking up Shinn on the net they were described as makers of braking systems for light aircraft. As soon as we lifted it and researched it we realised it must be from the main wreckage and my guess is it was trawled away. Receiver of wreck has been informed and the correct procedure is being followed
Try again
If this works then that was easy enough will post some more pix later…….
Ah no picture bit of a numpty when it comes to this stuff will sort it later
Hi Graham – nice to see you on the forum.
Any chance of some pics please?
Your best bet is to contact Ross O’Neil. He does post here, but his permanent home is over on the RAF Commands forum (he runs it). Ross has a very large database of aircraft down in UK waters and will almost certainly be able to help you.
Incidently, a diver was appealing for help to recover a P-40 from the same area about 20 years ago.
Hi Elliott thanks for the lead I will give it a try. If picture posting isn’t to complex I will do that later today, if not when we return from diving in France at the weekend. The P40 recovery involved local man Selwyn Williams a freind of mine, the wreck was west side of Portland off Chesil beach and sadly it all ended in tears but that is another story. Just for your interest we found the tail wheel assembly with sidescan in 27 metres.