What I find intersting is that RT and Sputnik are relating this event. It shows that Russia has a clear focus on the rafale to relate stories like that. I am often amazed by their speed to pick even some relatively minor event…Sometimes even faster than some French local media !
The article with the dutch F35 is quite accurate…F35 compensates faster loss of energy with good AoA and controlability at slower speed. It was obvious during the previous PAS I attended…It could perform some impressive manœuvres but afterwards it needed quite some time to recover energy when your typical 4th gen jet could pack much more aerobatics than the F35 in the same time frame of the aerial display. Pros and Cons each ways…
Interesting piece of information regarding Thalios :
1) with the standard F4 Thalios LDP will be coupled with the future HMS (they will be linked together).
2) Thalios LDP will use AI to help ID targets.
There will be a functionnality with a 3D map to get a better understanding of tactical situation. The pilot could for instance see on the 3D map where Thalios is pointing its laser.
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France made the right move taking the lead of the program…At least for its own interest.
Including Italy or/and the UK in the program would give each country a very small indutrial share…At least too small for France who like the UK wants to maintain the full spectrum of know-how to build a high end fighter jet.
Germany could be the right partner if the political will does not errode over time. Financially in good shape and not willing to take the lead.
I think that when France says that others (UK/Italy/Sweeden) are free to join provided the Franco/German leadership remains unchanged they know that the UK and to a lesser extent Italy would never accept this condition. They surely want to play a bigger role.
Sure they must be quite angry at the situation as France & Germany moved quickly to be in the stonger position.
UK/Italy for Tempest seems a good ticket for them to maintain a good industrial basis…Impossible with the Franco German program. So instead of having 3 different program in Europe we would have only 2…Already a progress !
Another in cockpit video, great sense of agility and speed due to the Wide fireld of view of the camera. Starts at 1min
Spot on LFMS. VLO is not the magic thing anymore like in the 90’s/2000’s. It is still valuable but it is just one element in the survivability mix. Multispectrum sensors, datafusion and datalinks of multiple platforms considerably erods the advantage of stealth. Still useful but no silver bullet.
+ modern ECM would give a hard time to an incoming EM missile forcing to close to the threat.
I disgaree,
If electronics are modernized, current 4th gen could still be potent assets with the right combination of UCAV and standoff weapons. Sure a single platform will not be enough and the future leans towards of a “system of system” more than the single silver bullet that wins against everything. In that context an up to date 4th gen fighter supported by other stealth assets like UCAV might prove enough for quite some times. Not the panacea but still, if it is used well with 6th gen electronics it could do the trick (again with other specialized platform when required).
Also the F15 still brings a lot with its massive carrying abilities and good range. With the right electronics it could still be a very capable aircraft for many years to come and complement well F35 and F22 with their small internal weaponery.
My favourite bit is the 3 antennae in each of the leading edge slats. We’ll just stick 3 antennae in this moving aerodynamic control surface, it’ll be right. There’ll be no problems due to the movement of the slats with functionality and the extra weight in a moving control surface will have no adverse affects on performance or fatigue and the cabling into the moving slats will work somehow.:eagerness:
Doesn’t the T-50 already have such a system or is intended to be operational ? It seems that this idea is not reserved to the rafale F4. It might also be located behind the slats. And again this chart might not be the final plan, the only thing known is that MFAs are in development for 2025 with the full rafale F4.2 standard. 2025 is the official target (which is contracted). The rest are opinion or speculation with not a lot of worth.
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Ceremony to launch the F4 standard development. If you understand French you will note the emphasis of the technological leap this standard brings from the French Mindef :
Even though the picture comes from a Thales presentation, I would not call it definitive but it gives a hint of where could those MFAs be located. I don’t think this picture would be pure random so it gives an idea.
http://www.microwave-rf.com/documents/14h00%20DMS_%20V%20DUPUY%20%20Y%20%20MANCUSO.pdf
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Nice flying over La Réunion Island in the south indian ocean by current rafale solo diplay pilot. (who grew on this Island)
Nice camo :
No timescale mentioned there, just says that it’s very ambitious. For GaN transmitter, demonstrator was 2014 (assuming it was on time), and in-service date is 2023. Full MFA demonstrator is currently non-existent, so based on that I’d say sometime after 2030, which is also the opinion shared a French journalist who wrote an article in Combat Aircraft, July 2015, Page 23. The conformal, multiband, multirole antennae development will begin in 2025 for qualification around 2030+. They will get GaN on the existing system first and then begin work on the rest. From a testing perspective it doesn’t even make sense to have the latter interfering with the integration of the former.
Well that’s an opinion but not the true story. The full F4 standard with MFAs is due to be qualified in 2025. Contract has been offically signed by French Gov for 2,1 billion $ a few days ago. The information about MFAs with the standard F4 is widely shared by Dassault, Thales and French air Force (standard F4.2 in 2025). Unless they are completely deluded which is of course not the case this is the plan.
first rafale delivered to Quatar :