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  • in reply to: General Discussion #321219
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    I trust that was a rhetorical question…..and I’m not suggesting for a second that this wasn’t an evil crime that deserved to be punished…

    …but let me ask you directly, what punishment do you think Jon Venables and Robert Thompson deserved?

    in reply to: Jon Venables return to prison #1903375
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    I trust that was a rhetorical question…..and I’m not suggesting for a second that this wasn’t an evil crime that deserved to be punished…

    …but let me ask you directly, what punishment do you think Jon Venables and Robert Thompson deserved?

    in reply to: Jon Venables return to prison #1903387
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    Well, maybe you could but it is different if it was one of your own children or ‘in the heat of the moment’ but it is interesting that James Bulger’s mother thought that Jon Venables and Robert Thompson should have been eligible for parole after serving only fifteen years.

    in reply to: General Discussion #321232
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    Well, maybe you could but it is different if it was one of your own children or ‘in the heat of the moment’ but it is interesting that James Bulger’s mother thought that Jon Venables and Robert Thompson should have been eligible for parole after serving only fifteen years.

    in reply to: General Discussion #321251
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    I wonder how the forum really feels about ‘stringing them up’! (Jon Venables & Robert Thompson.)

    Now I know that it is never going to happen but assuming that, as ten year olds, they were given a fair trial and condemned to death would the forum be happy to see such a sentence carried-out, or as some have suggested carry-it-out themselves?

    It is easy to say yes but think about what you are asking, or asking others to do. I’m not really sure how a hanging would be carried out these days but I believe the hands of the condemned are usually bound behind their back. What if they struggle and resist? What if when you go into their cell they are lying on their bed clutching a teddy-bear and crying that they don’t want to die?

    You see, at that point I couldn’t do it, irrespective of what they’ve done and I couldn’t ask anybody to do it for me, and I couldn’t stand by and watch it done either. In fact, even thinking about it and writing this makes me very uncomfortable.

    Now I’m not in any way trying to suggest that Jon Venables & Robert Thompson didn’t commit an absolutely evil, premeditated crime but even James Bulger’s mother, Denise Fergus said recently that “He [Jon Venables] should really have served a sentence of something in the order of fifteen years and should be coming up for parole now.”

    Personally I don’t think that fifteen years is a long enough sentence for such a crime, as the perpetrators would have been released at age twenty-five, having ‘paid their debt to society’ but then what rights do I have when compared to James Bulger’s mother?

    in reply to: Jon Venables return to prison #1903403
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    I wonder how the forum really feels about ‘stringing them up’! (Jon Venables & Robert Thompson.)

    Now I know that it is never going to happen but assuming that, as ten year olds, they were given a fair trial and condemned to death would the forum be happy to see such a sentence carried-out, or as some have suggested carry-it-out themselves?

    It is easy to say yes but think about what you are asking, or asking others to do. I’m not really sure how a hanging would be carried out these days but I believe the hands of the condemned are usually bound behind their back. What if they struggle and resist? What if when you go into their cell they are lying on their bed clutching a teddy-bear and crying that they don’t want to die?

    You see, at that point I couldn’t do it, irrespective of what they’ve done and I couldn’t ask anybody to do it for me, and I couldn’t stand by and watch it done either. In fact, even thinking about it and writing this makes me very uncomfortable.

    Now I’m not in any way trying to suggest that Jon Venables & Robert Thompson didn’t commit an absolutely evil, premeditated crime but even James Bulger’s mother, Denise Fergus said recently that “He [Jon Venables] should really have served a sentence of something in the order of fifteen years and should be coming up for parole now.”

    Personally I don’t think that fifteen years is a long enough sentence for such a crime, as the perpetrators would have been released at age twenty-five, having ‘paid their debt to society’ but then what rights do I have when compared to James Bulger’s mother?

    in reply to: Iraqi Army issue equipment. #1903672
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    I can’t say for certain about helmets or gas masks but many Iraqi tanks, armoured vehicles and other weapons were of Russian, Chinese or Warsaw Pact design although some were of local manufacture.

    in reply to: General Discussion #321675
    Creaking Door
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    I can’t say for certain about helmets or gas masks but many Iraqi tanks, armoured vehicles and other weapons were of Russian, Chinese or Warsaw Pact design although some were of local manufacture.

    in reply to: General Discussion #321936
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    Jon Venables & Robert Thompson…..they’ll never have a normal life.

    Imagine, never being able to go out with out the fear of being identified. Never being able to travel to other countries for a holiday. Hold down any important job. Have a wife and family and knowing your hiding a horrible secret. And finally the guilt, may be not for a few years, but as years go by the gnawing guilt will get worse.

    Good! I don’t want them to have normal lives!

    Imagine never being able to let your children go out without the fear of them being murdered. James Bulger is never going to travel to other countries for a holiday, or hold down any job and he’s never going to have a wife and children. What about the guilt suffered by James Bulger’s mother? I don’t suppose that will get any better as the years pass.

    in reply to: Jon Venables return to prison #1903795
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    Jon Venables & Robert Thompson…..they’ll never have a normal life.

    Imagine, never being able to go out with out the fear of being identified. Never being able to travel to other countries for a holiday. Hold down any important job. Have a wife and family and knowing your hiding a horrible secret. And finally the guilt, may be not for a few years, but as years go by the gnawing guilt will get worse.

    Good! I don’t want them to have normal lives!

    Imagine never being able to let your children go out without the fear of them being murdered. James Bulger is never going to travel to other countries for a holiday, or hold down any job and he’s never going to have a wife and children. What about the guilt suffered by James Bulger’s mother? I don’t suppose that will get any better as the years pass.

    in reply to: Jon Venables return to prison #1903877
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    I think what annoys most people about this case (apart from the evil crime itself) is the ‘protection’ afforded the guilty and their families after their release.

    Were the whole families of the murderers relocated and given new identities? If so, why? That level of protection is never given to the victims of violent crime and seldom to any witness brave enough to stand up and give evidence against violent criminals, so why then is it given to those so clearly guilty of such a crime?

    in reply to: General Discussion #322051
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    I think what annoys most people about this case (apart from the evil crime itself) is the ‘protection’ afforded the guilty and their families after their release.

    Were the whole families of the murderers relocated and given new identities? If so, why? That level of protection is never given to the victims of violent crime and seldom to any witness brave enough to stand up and give evidence against violent criminals, so why then is it given to those so clearly guilty of such a crime?

    in reply to: Wooden bombs on decoys WW2 #1158339
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    Possibly so. But these are clearly of the wooden dummy variety.

    Yes, no doubting your photograph is clearly of dummy aircraft and quite convincing they are too, even from this range and angle, complete with ‘fake’ tarpaulins over the cockpits, or was that to avoid building the complex glazing?

    With the sun low down on the horizon the wooden supports for the wings would have been a dead-giveaway even on a higher altitude photograph but as you say a strafing P-51 hedge-hopping home would probably have been fooled, until it was too late. They should have camouflaged them and attempted to ‘hide’ them in a less obvious place. 😉

    I’d like to see that photograph of a dummy Hurricane.

    Decoys may seem crude but wooden Mig-29 decoys were still attracting laser-guided-bombs in Kosovo!

    in reply to: Wooden bombs on decoys WW2 #1158518
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    Here is a shot from my archives of dummy Ju 88’s at Epinay on 2 September 1944.

    By late 1944 wouldn’t there have been plenty of real German bombers set-up on airfields specifically as ‘decoys’?

    in reply to: Redundant Boeing 747 'Survives' Bomb Test #579959
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    This was mentioned in another thread in commercial and it being pressurised is exactly what I said.

    I did have a quick look in Commercial but couldn’t find it…..I should have guessed at thread drift in the ‘Scrapped 747’ thread.

    The Delta flight was on approach to Detroit when the bomber attempted to set off his explosives.

    I didn’t realise that the flight was on approach to Detroit; that being the case what you say about pressure difference will be true. Presumably the bomber did this to increase the impact of the media coverage by ensuring that the crash would be on land and so there would be plenty for the news-crews to video.

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