Your own picture shows the PLAN stepping away from the system the US Navy and other navies from around the world use and moving to a deck system more like the Russian navy.See picture below.
Okay, you are apparently colour blind — I’ve drawn a circle for you, around the other colours. Green, yellows and a red shirt are visible in that circle. The circle is red, by the way, but I suppose it will appear a darkish shade of gray for you FYI.
I’ll repeat again — the reason we’re seeing only red shirts in the forefront of this pic is because it’s likely a lull in flight deck operations and the red shirts (likely the PLAN’s colour whose jobs include aircraft maintenance) are around the planes because IT’S THEIR JOB. There are no other coloured shirts at the front of the shot because their job isn’t to work on the aircraft and there is no flight deck operations for them to be needed.
The good thing about this is that in the next year or so eventually pictures and videos are going to come to light showing they haven’t changed their vest colours and this ridiculous tangent of yours will be cut.
The Russian navy has never adopted a color coded deck crew system. This could be the reason why Russia has not fielded a better aircraft at sea program
Well gosh if it was that easy I wonder why the Russians don’t just change their vest colour for their deck crews, apparently that’s all you need to field a carrier!
Maybe the Chinese are developing their own ‘mix’ of carrier systems in an attempt to achieve competency in the shortest time. The ‘dance on the deck’ is hard to master and maybe the PLAN is using their own ideas based upon the limited experience they have gathered to date. After all they do claim that the Liaong is a training ship.
We have no idea what the Chinese are doing with their carrier program apart from a few surface details. They sensibly do not release enough photos or videos on an upto date basis for us to make any meaningful assessment of how far they are along at any point in time. The fact that you’re trying to make so many inferences is simply fallacious.
And since you pointed out all these other navies who use the colored vest system you should be aware that it was the US Navy who actually pioneered the color coded deck system that is in use today. The pictures below from WW2 tell the tale
Yes, and the Wright brothers pioneered the powered heavier than air flying machine, that does not mean every person who has ever flown on an aircraft to this day is using the “Wright brother’s mode of transport”.
In the same sense, colour coded vests was pioneered by the US, no one’s disputing that, but in the modern day you can not call it “the US way” because of just how many navies use similar methods.
Finally you should be questioning the PLAN and their sluggish snail like pace regarding carrier operations rather than my observations of this pace.
Actually their “sluggish pace” is quite reasonable and expected given their previous experience with operating aircraft carriers is zero, and that they are indigenously sourcing, producing and trialling virtually every system and subsystem of the carrier, its airwing, its escorts, not to mention having to develop doctrine and training all by themselves as well.
Even the US Navy is aware that proficiency at carrier operations takes practice, practice, practice at sea.
Of course everyone is aware of this. What makes you think the PLAN are not?
The PLAN seems to believe that having a carrier tied up dock side will some how result in mastering carrier operations. But to each his own.
Do you know how much time the Liaoning has spent at dock versus at sea over the last year or so? Because I certainly do not. If you do not either, then you have no basis to say what the PLAN thinks or doesn’t think regarding mastering carrier operations.
Finally, you Roovialk, need to slow down a little and stop trying to use every little photo to try and justify or inform your belief that the PLAN are not choosing to take their carrier program seriously or that they will fail at it. I’m not sure why you’re so obsessed with the notion, and it hasn’t subsided at all in the last few years.
If you really want to discuss PLAN carrier operations and try to make your case for your view you are welcome over at Sinodefenceforum.com, where there is far more consistent watching of PLAN carrier matters and far more experienced PLA watchers as well.
In picture one that J-15 doesn’t have its hook down for landing. Touch and go? In the second picture the deck crew are not wearing the color coded jersey’s shown in early pictures of PLAN carrier operations. What’s up? Have the Chinese abandoned the US Navy style they were trying earlier and gone to the Russian naval system.
Yes, first picture is probably a touch and go.
The second photo seems to show a lull in deck operations. In the back ground of the photo you can see some deck crew with the same colour coding as previous. The lull in flight and deck operation may mean the standard deck crew in their different colours aren’t doing their stuff, so they’re naturally not in the picture very prominently.
Also, the people around the aircraft are wearing orange/red jackets, which is a colour that they’ve had for a while now, since the very beginning actually.
If I had to make a guess, the red jackets may be aircraft maintenance, who are currently working on their aircraft during a lull in intensive deck operation, which would explain why many of them aren’t wearing helmets and why we mostly only see red jackets in the photo.
A quick jaunt through JN from google earth as of last november.
Four 052Ds (units 2, 3, 4, and 5) in the water and the 12k ton cutter painted and ready for launch. We finally are able to get dimensions for the thing and it is a big, big ship.
Since then, JN has launched its 6th 052D in december, the first 12k ton cutter was launched, and the second 12k ton cutter is nearing read to be launched.
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