I think someone high up in CAC definitely spend lots of time online.
When you question there product, they answer it ASAP:diablo:Since pictures with side bay came out, ppl started to question how big/how long it is… and today… well, let the pictures speak themselves.:D
That second picture is made perfect by the family of four chickens or birds next to the runway ^^
^ Radar, IRST should be indigenous considering J-11B’s is… J-11B uses composites again, so I see no reason why J-15 shouldn’t… The prototypes are using Al-31s but as with J-11Bs, production should use WS-10s.
I wouldn’t say they took Su-33 and got out a super hornet, but it’s certainly better to an extent simply because everything’s newer. I think even the most zealous Russian commentator (talking about the ones you read in the media) would be misguided to say J-15 won’t be as good as the “original” Su-33… to say the least. ^^
Whats interesting about that? For many years now China has been making a lot more Flankers than Russia has for the VVS. Given how badly outdated the Chinese air force was, this is no surprise.
Oh, and yes, its a Su-33 rip-off. Another glorious example of China’s respect for intellectual property.
It’s interesting because it means that another air force could very well end up having more flankers than the VVS by a large margin.
I think this thread should be closed, it’s obvious the Russians don’t require a large fighter for the Kuznetsov and they have no carriers down the path either. Besides they should be able to build updated Su-33s without massive problems, and even if they couldn’t the last path they’d choose is to purchase a chinese copy which they’ve been spazzing off at for the last few years.
Jesting aside, it’s kind of interesting that Chinese production of flankers in coming years might match russian production flankers for the VVS.
Mig-29Ks are enough for the Kuznetsov, and I don’t think Russia has any carriers on the forseeable horizon which would not give Mig or Sukhoi enough time to get an indigenous large carrier aircraft.
Wow, this really is a surprise! I never expected the Sinoraptor to have EO-DAS. It never occured to me the electronics system would already be this developed this early in the test program. What the hell?
that’s no evidence the DAS is actually finished. Those are probably just placeholders.
These the pics we’re talking about?


I particularly like the first shot… if only it was a bit higher rez and the sun was a bit brighter 😮
But the Varyag remains a STOBAR carrier, how can this thing operate from it?
1 — I believe E-2 was said to be capable of taking off on a STOBAR carrier when northrop were showing it off for the indians. It’s not impossible this Sino-E-2 can as well.
2, and more likely — it isn’t designed to operate from the Varyag? 😉
Yeah I was lamenting the samething overthere in SDF.
a EODAS system coupled with low observable platform,
datalinks
an optically guided medium range missile. like a IRST mounted on nose of a PL-12/AMRAAM/R-77.
Kinda funny and sad the f-22 will be the only 5th gen without a dedicated das. Jsf, t-50 and j-20 can look forward to be endowed with either an irst or das…
Then again I’ve heard the f-22s eo maws can perform a similar function.
wonder what fold out mechanism they would have for the side bay. if they do it right they might be able to squeeze 2 missiles inside .
But I doubt short range -IR missile is that critical.
If fight gets in that stage the game is lost anyways.
I don’t think more than one pl-10 can fit into each side bay, it just looks like there wont be enough clearance. It looks to have a similarly sized side bay to the f-22, and the latter can only hold one aim-9x (which has the much wingspan).
Unless the side bay is deeper than it looks, and with one sraam on the weapon bay door, re other inside the bay attached to an arm which can launch it out… Seems a bit too much work, and even then it would be tighter meaning possible greater malfunctions.
The ventral bay could be pretty large though.
:eek::eek::eek:
Even though the picture quality’s bad that plane’s underside, all sleek and smooth is nothing less than sexy.
so somehow your guesses of something you’re not sure of thats in the J-10B is as good as the stuff in the Typhoon and F-16E.. okay.. that makes perfect sense.
I didn’t want to mention his overused name but Huitong equated J-10B to F-16E. With what I’ve heard of the upgrades it would receive over the J-10A I felt out of the options for the PAF which you asked, it was capable enough to counter typhoon or rafale, therefore roughly comparable.
So it makes some sense, not quite perfect but with what we know is probably true that was my conclusion. I’m willing to agree to disagree here, I don’t have much else to say.
The USA also has block 50/52 F-16Cs. The US also has older blocks F-16s too. they are not called Block 50/52. learn the difference
proof? so what are the names and stats of these features? In fact the Typhoon doesn’t even have an AESA
… Are you suggesting I don’t know that an f-16a isn’t considered a block 50? I don’t know why you’re pointing that out, I never said older blocks of f-16s were block 50
You know as well as I do that we can’t get names or stats or what not of these systems… Only credible rumors they exist. My whole loose comparison before was assuming these systems were all real (the maws, irst at least are visibly there) therefore giving j-10b a boost up from it’s predecessor which I considered it enough to be in the class with the likes of typhoon and f-16e.
Haha j-20 with a green nose… It’s not put of the question for the plaaf to give this plane a paint scheme so bad it makes the plane itself look cr*p… Thats how bad their taste is.
Let’s hold out hope they will give this plane the bad ass paint job it deserves
oh, there’s low and high end F-16 Block 52s? I thought there’s basically just one.
So could you explain in detail how J-10A is like an F-16 B52 and how J-10B is like a Typhoon?
I think higher end block 52s have CFTs and all round a bit better? Like I wouldn’t call a new build F-16C say for the PAF as the same as an F-16C built for the USAF a few decades ago.
J-10B’s got your passive detection/IRST, more integrated avionics/ECM, AESA and what not… whereas Block 52s don’t?
My personal measure is that the J-10B to the J-10A is what the F-16E is to the F-16C (even though J-10B lacks CFTs as of now but the other upgrades I mentioned should justify it)… from there it’s not reasonable to say the J-10B’s close enough to the mighty typhoon…
Do you think the J-10B’s not comparable to the Typhoon? (Or put another way, do you think the F-16E is similar to the Typhoon, or the Rafale too at that).