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  • in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2147199
    Blitzo
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    Around 100 j10b/c and regiment or so (20+) of j16 should have some operational capability… If one is to count all phased array fighters handed over to plaaf then we could add several su35 and some more j16

    If we’re counting all phased array fighters handed to the military in any capacity, I think you could throw a half dozen or more J-20As in there as well.

    If we’re counting all phased array fighters that are currently flying, I think J-16D, J-11D, and potentially J-15A and J-15D would be counted as well.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2147564
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    J-16 (AESA) – 20?
    J-10B – (PESA, will be upgraded to the 10C AESA) – ???
    J-10C – (AESA) – 50?

    Not sure about the actual numbers. Maybe 20+ J-16, 100+ J-10B/10C (maybe closing in on 150). Again, I am not sure about the numbers. Best if you check with Deino.

    I’ve read that J-16 is something like over 30 in total as of very late last year, and J-10B and J-10C combined was something like 120 (so about 60 each)

    I think one regiment’s worth of J-16 has been “in service” for at least a year, with second batch production occurring over the last few months/to now probably. All J-10Bs I imagine should have been in service starting from 2015 to 2016, and J-10Cs entering service probably from late 2016 to now.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2147969
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    I don’t have the SA on this subject you might have. You’re probably right.

    Fair enough.

    If I had to point out one big public event involving J-20 over the last year that says something about the air force’s confidence in it, it would be the appearance of two J-20s at Zhuhai Air Show last year.

    It is quite unprecedented for such a new and frontline combat aircraft to make such a high profile public appearance so early before it had yet to even enter any sort of service that that stage. For J-10, it only made its first appearance at Zhuhai in 2008, which was five years after it entered service as part of “IOT&E” in 2003, whereas for J-20 it made its first appearance at Zhuhai even before it entered service as part of its “IOT&E”.

    Of course part of that is probably greater willingness to be open/transparent on behalf of the military as well compared to before.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2147983
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    Ignore list is made for situations like this.

    Too true. But sometimes my morbid curiosity gets the better of me. My own fault, in this case.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148023
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    nobody cared, until I mentioned it casually to KGB
    then suddenly some one’s panties got tied up in a knot. for some reason the color dark green highly offends them

    2001 is clearly dark green, the only reason it’s called into question is because there’s no clear day time shot of it due to China’s eternal pollution

    Okay man, whatever. Green, orange, red. Call it whatever colour you want.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148025
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    1. it matters what color the art is because it means other people acknowledge it is dark green too
    2. real photos were posted above you, but if you can’t see that, then i’m not surprised you can’t see the actual color either. don’t blame us because you’re one of those guys who sees the dress as white and gold when everyone is telling you it is blue

    1: drawings based on initial poor quality pictures
    2: if these look green to you, then screw it, clearly it’s orange

    http://i.imgur.com/5ZQbxyu.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/oqOZUYY.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/6x26A5F.jpg

    http://i.imgur.com/O1hYGUo.jpg

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148041
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    and note that the magazine and model drawings based on the early prototype also show dark green, no matter how hard you try to spin it.
    see a doctor please.

    And who cares about what colour magazine and model drawings were?
    Is the question what colour the magazine and model drawings were, or what the colour of the actual plane was? I thought the issue was the latter, rather than the former. If we are debating over what a few magazine and model drawings initially thought the colour was — then yes, clearly they incorrectly displayed and listed it as green.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148058
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    Its green. It is not us that need to get our eyes checked. Its you.

    Plus I posted the model J 20 kit on Amazon that is listed as dark green

    This is such a confusing strand of discussion. Whatever. It’s green. It’s orange. It’s purple. Whatever.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148060
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    what color is this?

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/c2/db/29/c2db298d92b1e6e71d181fbf60be6148.jpg

    Does it matter what colour the art is? I could paint one which is orange, but that doesn’t mean the real plane was orange.

    Doesn’t it bother you that the most convincing pictures you have for your position are drawings/art rather than photos?

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148077
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    durr, of course it is dated dec 2010.
    the first J-20 prototype was the dark green one. naturally all the photos of the dark green j-20 will be late 2010-2011

    http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AN/AN14-4/43-7.jpg

    If that image really looks dark green to you I think it may be of interest for you to consult an optometrist or an ophthalmologist.

    Yes. But it is somewhat noteworthy. If there was any risk at this level that the plane would be a failure, that won’t have happened yet.

    I suppose. But tbh we would’ve known ages ago if it was a failure not to mention recent developments over the last year that have been more indicative.
    A quick verbal statement on CCTV about J-20 “entering service” is not that significant in that regard given the accumulation of other events in J-20’s development else over the last few years.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148121
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    J20 Induced in PLAAF

    Note, they only say it is in service they do not say what degree of service (IOC etc), which obviously they do not ever release to us.

    I imagine J-20 at this stage has entered service in the sense that the air force is using them in the IOT&E stage.

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148134
    Blitzo
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    you better tell your boss, Tom, his artwork used the wrong color, unless you think this is not dark green
    https://image.ibb.co/gjP4RF/J_XX.jpg

    Artwork dated December 2010.

    Are you really basing your belief that you think J-20 is coloured dark green based off artwork made of J-20 back when we didn’t even have clear pictures of it? Or is this some kind of roundabout way of saying that Tom Cooper’s initial J-20 art had an incorrect colour?

    More importantly, why is Tom Cooper’s art from December 2010 even relevant considering all the clear pictures we’ve had of the various J-20 prototypes and LRIP aircraft over the past 6+ years. Does Tom Cooper’s art of J-20 made when we had no clear pictures of it, take precedence over every other picture we’ve had of it?

    in reply to: Chinese air power thread 18 #2148155
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    I am crazy? Is my monitor calibration wrong? The H6 is light grey and the J20 is dark grey.

    Your monitor is fine.

    For some reason the colour and camo scheme of Chinese aircraft is an area of contention now… weird.

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2008987
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    … and if it is based on the twin-seater J-15S (similar to the J-16D) or if it will be a single seater!?

    Well if it’s called J-15D and if it’s similar to J-16D in the same way, and considering its supposed intended role… well I strongly doubt it would be a single seater.

    In other words a J-15 growler. Imagine how difficult it would be to develop modern EW/ECM aircraft that a single person can operate.

    So based on the J-15S, that should be a no brainer. I’d be sooooo surprised if it was a single seater, unless the aircraft ends up being different to what we all envision for it.

    in reply to: PLAN News Thread #4 #2009001
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    Apparently last year a J-15D made us maiden flight with similar arrangement that J-16D had. Unfortunately we don’t have photos of it, but if it is real I think it will be very interesting to see if it’s landing gear is also meant for catapult launch like J-15A

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