ROK Join Chiefs of Staff decided to opted for twin engines KF-X design despite worries of Higher Development costs.
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After the broadcast of the rebels shoot down this AN 26, the international Civil Aviation authority should be more proactive to warn the Airliners on totally avoiding Ukraine air space. With they only warn the Airliners only to fly on specific hight, clearly shown bad risk assessment on the Euro Aviation authorities.
When a volcanic eruption occurs, the aviation authorities ussually very proactive to warned the airliners avoiding specific volcano on any hight..but when SAM existence and the tendency of the users to used them already well known..”in a heavy conflict area”…they only put limited warning…Just great risk assessment job…
I don’t blame Malaysian Airlines for flying over a warzone. Because everyone (well almost) has been doing it and not just over Ukraine. I blame the system that made this kind of behavior acceptable and international standard. Just because nothing happened in the past doesn’t mean its a good idea.
How many SA-11 like systems were there in places like Afghanistan? Probably none, so we do it everywhere. What if your airliner runs into technical problems and has to descend to lower altitude?.
Agree on this..for me the blame on this tragedy are more to the air control regime that still allowed international civil aviation opened routes on high conflict area like this. They should already see that eventhough some lower flying objects already been shot down..does not mean the high flying planes are always been safe..
It’s just matter of time all parties will equiped themselves with more sophisticated anti air misiles, especially the rebel. With continue airstrike being incured to them, how can anybody believe that they will not shot down all the flying objects above their heads, when they get chances to do it..
Whether the Buk missiles being obtained from Russia or confiscated from Ukraine forces, does not really mattered. It’s just matter of time when the rebels going to obtained them…considering how many that system available in Ukraine conflict area.
No, the biggest blame is on the Euro Air Control that still believe flying high in conflict area where the insurgences can get much more sophisticated weapon than insurgance in Iraq or Gaza is relatively safe to fly. Opening that flight route to civilian travelers, is just waiting this kind of situation to happen..
http://www.standard.net/Government/2014/07/15/Hill-working-on-F-16-for-Indonesian-government.html
Hill Ogden Air Logistic Complex delivered 3 of eventually 24 refurbished and modified ex USAF F-16 Blok 25 to Indonesian AF.
can’t find the japan aviation thread
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I suggest being merged with this thread.
They might be able to export to Indonesia which is wholly lacking a heavy transport. Don’t know how the Aussies would react though.
If budget permitted, more likely A-400M that will be the choices. The Indonesian AF Chief already mentioned it to local media on the AF preferences with A-400M. Considering also close business relationships between Euro manufacturers (EADS & Airbus) with Indonesian Aerospace (IAe), then it’s most likely choice.
Australian will not mind, they already grant 4 C-130H and sold 5 C-130H to Indonesia, enough to equip 3rd C-130 squadron stationed in East Indonesia directly facing Australia. Australia knows that and don’t mind. It’s only transport and they have more advance transport anyway with C-130J and C-17.
Northrop Grumman to take lead as prime contractor for USAF T-X trainer contest
I thought T-X being reviewed and potentially delayed ?
For (a):
Neither KFX C-501 or C-103 designed to directly matched F-35. KFX seems designed for something that close enough with F-35, but more economical thus can be procured on larger number. Just like you say in the end both Korea and Turkey will hop on F-35 wagon. Still both need something indigenous that can complement F-35 but made much the rest of their fleet.
For (b):
Seems something like AMCA is what the AF prefered.
For (c):
That argument for something that can replaced F-16, have more capabilities than present F-16 but more economical than F-35 is the argument from KAI for C-501 design.
The AF seems argued that C-103 have more flexibility on design thus profide better flexibility for future tech enhancement. This they argue profide better attractiveness in the market. KAI argued for C-501 on the merit it can be ready sooner than C-103, and from economical stand point will be more attractive for International market.
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It would be great if Korea could bring another junior partner on-board … Vietnam would seem ideal.
ananda do you know if Indonesia/TNI-AU has any preference regarding size/configuration/technologies of KF-X?
Both ROKAF and TNI-AU prefer C-103 design. Both wants design that flexible enough for further tech enhancement. But then again, whatever both AF wants, the questions, can the existing budget enough for C-103.
That’s why C-501 design come up, since KAI prepared this design as fall back if further studies show the C-103 design simply too expensive to developed. Yes C-501 design is less capable then C-103 design on nearly every aspect such as, weapons load, range, stealth characteristics, and flexibility for further tech enhancement. However it’s more easily to developed based on both Korea and Indonesia resources thet yet being agreed to committed until now.
Additional Partner so far that realistically to be involved is Turkey. However since Korea and Turkey from what I gather still has not resolved on what this indigenous fighter program priorities will be, then so far they choose not on join program yet.
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The twin engine design (C-103) which being prefered by ROKAF in the end will evolved with 5th gen design augmented by internal weapons bay. While the single engine design (C-501) directly evolved from existing T-50 thus more ready to developed. The questions is will the budget can be enough for full 5th gen design of C-103 (granted the devlp prpject will be conducted on at least 3 batch, which the full 5th gen come out on the 3rd batch), or more appropriate for C-501 less ambitious single engine design.
ROK so far can only get Indonesia as Junior Partner and Junior means only take 20 % share of total cost. Yes the twin engine design can be more ready for future enhancements. It’s simply be ready to developed with only less than USD 20 bio budget ?
I more incline unless aditional budget or partner can be secured, the less ambitious C-501 will be more likely to developed simply on the budget issue.
ROKAF back more ambitious twin engine design for KFX program.
Thailand, will launch LIFT programe after new government can be form. In other word new procurement can only begin, if the political situation resolve.
You mean like JDS Sōryū & JDS Unryū?
Those were two of the IJN’s fleet carriers in WW2, and are two of the Sōryū class submarines of the JMSDF.
They commissioned in March 2009 and March 2010 respectively.
😮 Oooh heck, how come I forgot Soryu class SSK. Anyway, I do believe the name Shokaku and Zuikaku have more psychological image for the IJN nostalgic considering those two considered the best IJN carriers and represent the hight of IJN carrier force. I read somewhere on Japanese sites that there are considerations for follow on to Izumo which plan to have deck length of 270-280 metres. If that happen, no matter JMSDF call them, it is a true aircraft carriers.
The Izumo is a destroyer capable of carrying helicopters or is simply as a helicopter carrier?.
Despite appearances, Japan insists Izumo is not an aircraft carrier
I’ll wait for the reappearance of 21st century Shokaku and Zuikaku through deck cruisers equiped with F-35B. Japanese Navy already recycle some of Imperial Navy BB name, it’s about time they recycle the Imperial Navy Carriers name.
Here is another story?
Present Administration is only has few months time left. This is only a study, since other news already indicating that no new procurement will be conducted in 2014 (due election year).