[ATTACH=CONFIG]217008[/ATTACH]That’s why the Thai then bought ST marine LPD.
If this is so the Japanese must be ahead of everyone in AESA technology. Banzai!
Ha, ha, good one. Well what can you say..China strong..so J-10B must be more powerfull than a fighter that resulted from collaborative effort from aviation industries that have much more experience and track record from China Aviation Industries combined.
Personally I think PdA should be broken up as spares for the Chakri Naruebet.
Great..spares for a carrier that spend 90% of her time in berth 🙂
Seriously, I’m not surprise if many in Thai Navy it self want to get rid Chakri Naruebet if they can, and use the resources for more useful vessels for Thai Navy.
As PdA if any interest for her still exists, I do believe it will not be for uses as carrier, but more as multirole helicopter platform that can be use for amphibious operations, kind of multipurpose LPH or ASW platform. @Swerve, I put LHD on my previous posts since that’s the talk on local forum from claimed Navy insiders. But I do agree with you that LPH is more realistic term than LHD if some one wants to convert PdA.
Indonesia forces USAF C-146A to land:
http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=96015&sid=9191e2f45805b558b8a4fd42bb70e931
C-146A’s are Special Operations aircraft. I wonder how the US will take this and how it will impact sale of ex-US F-16s to Indonesia.
There is no forced landing in this case. The Plane in route from Singapore to Ceylon. However has to land in Banda Aceh for refueling. The problem is the plane did not have authorisations and schedulle first to land in Banda Aceh. The AF authorities there only detain the plane until US authority can prepared neccesary documentation and permit.
I see this as some miss calculation from US crew. Whether they overestimate the plane range (thus can still have fuel beyond banda aceh), or somebody forget to prepared neccesary permit for refueling in banda aceh.
From lavozdigital.es, Philipines show interest with Spanish Carrier Principe de Asturias. The article talk the most serious interest for the carrier before came from Indonesia, with a complete technical team inspect the carrier before on March. However Indonesian government already decided to turn down the carrier. Presently Philipines still left as potential bidder.
http://www.lavozdigital.es/cadiz/v/20130520/cadiz/filipinas-interesa-principe-asturias-20130520.html
From local forum, indicated Indonesia team came to Spain to asses the carrier for possible modifications as LHD duties. However the cost for mordernisation considered to high, for the carrier to be used for effective amphibious operation as LHD.
However when one looks at used-F16 sales, they’re not that great either.
Chile and Jordan snapped up the F-16AM/BMs before there were any quantities of used JAS-39 and Eurofighter available.
Indonesia’s ordered some ancient Block 25s but they already operate F-16A/B.
Pakistan received jets as part of aircraft embargoed for decades.
Those F-16 Block 25 that being bought by Indonesia, are being upgraded with avionics and refurbished airframes close to Block 50 standard. That’s what make different when talking about used F-16 compared to used Gripen or Typhoon. Huge populations of F-16 means upgrading packages for used F-16 more affordable that upgrading packages for used Gripen and Typhoon.
Populations do matter.
Naturally, ananda, its only hypothetical topic. But… may be, Turkey, South Korea and Indonesia are in relatively good economic condition.
Agree, that’s why I said anything can happen. And it cuts both ways. What I’m getting at, at this moment, what will come out from both program, may not neccesary will be as design says. For KFX/IFX for example, what can be turn out can be just another upgrade FA-50, singgle engine and not twin . This just an example of the program that turn out not something that will be interesting for even second or third tiers Euro Nations.
After all look at MAKO concept. Not turn many interest on Euro zone. And something just little more updated of that ( Mako), that in the end can still come out from both projects.
Isn’t to early saying anything on KFX/IFX or TFX ? KFX/IFX only manage to finish the first stage of development, and the second stage now being delayed by ROK for at least another 18 mo. TFX, well right now is just a rough design.
Anything can happen on those projects.
thobbes.
Confirmation please, you have not mention F-5 on Turkey inventory. I thought they are still operational presently. Are they already withdrawn from Turkish inventory ?
Taking the young pilots as co pilots, I do believe happen even on majors (at least that what I read on sveral forum with pilots as members). The problem is the captains usually already seasoned ones. Several major airlines from what I heard ussually put the young co-pilots with pilots that already have more than 20000 flight hours.
The pilot on this Lion plane, already have 10000 hours. However some Pilots in here say, its still not enough compared to say major airlines practise that put 15000 + hours before a co pilot can be a pilot. That’s not clear whether this pilot have 10000 hrs altogether, or 10000 hrs as pilot/captain.
Lion according some forum already improved the quality of the maintanance and support, and also they have planes with average age below 5 years. However the quality of pilots and the schedulling flight hrs which rumours say above average major airlines, that being put under scrutiny.
One thing that daily mail need to be updated, at the moment nearly 90% second or third hand aircraft has been phased out. New procurement of Aircraft by most Indonesian airlines are brand new ones.
The problem according people from the Industry is the speed in producing realiable pilots in line with the speed of new aircraft procurement. I don’t know how realiable it is, but some senior pilots (based on social media report) accused new airlines including Lion on recruiting captain from co-pilots on established airline like Garuda in which on Garuda those co-pilots considered not matured enough as captain.
They also taking a lot of foreign new pilots as co-pilots, with limited flying hours before. Taking young co-pilots will not create significant problem if the pilots/captains already seasoned ones. Well at least that what i read from those senior pilots social media.
But, lets see what the finding result turn out.
Total passenger according to the manifest 101 with 8 crew. No fatal casualties, around 10 still in hospital due to light injuries. The plane it self is a 737-800 NG, and only operated with Lion for 6-7 months. Arrive second semester last year directly from Boeing facilities. From what I gather, this is one of the early batch of 737-800 with Lion, since before Lion mostly operated 737-900ER.
The plane originating from Bandung in West Java, and overshoot the runway. It stop on the water in front of the Runway area, on shallow water.
And PLA getting so bold as start dismantling SE Asia’s token military forces means the Americans aren’t willing to help and that China has developed proper expeditionary warfare capability (or has rumbled armoured divisions through Vietnam or Thailand).
Seems like a cut and paste of Japan’s forays in 1942.
At least the Royal Navy no longer has ships to be sunk in the area! :D:diablo:
Do you still believe that if China did dismantling SEA oppositions on South China sea, other regional powers including the US navy will stand by ?? South China sea is too much important sea lane, that any regional powers will let one power dominate it, especially if that power is China.
Where are the KFX flying from? Where’s the nearest Indonesian air base to the Spratleys?
The nearest Indonesian Air Base is Ranai AB in Natuna. Like most AB in Indonesia, it’s also double as Commercial Airport. It’s has 2500+ m runway that made them able to handle 737 class airliner and capable for temporary housing Fighters flights (although lack infrastructure for permanent housing/based).
The nearest airbase with permanent sq is Soepadio AB in Pontianak West Kalimanta/Borneo, which housed 1 sq of Hawk 209 and 1 sq of UAV.
Indonesia has no claim over the Spratleys, but China claims Indonesia’s Natuna Islands as theirs and part of the Spratleys
No. China did not claim the Natuna Islands, but China claim intersect with Natuna’s Exclusive Economic Zone.
I feel if there was a truly Western truly cheap option it would sell also it is a good idea to have a cheap easy type that is easy to operate
It’s already exists for two decades..It’s easy to operate, cheap, with F-16 based radar, capable (in theory) for multi-role even secondary Air defense role..BAe build..but so far with only few countries to operate..can’t be call market success.
Kind put questions on the concept.