The issue is, that China has some real biggies to compete with. Sure, if this double digit growth continues, China will be able to overtake US, US + Japan, maybe, US + Japan + India (only if India and Japan really screw up for the next couple of decades), US+Japan+India+EU, very unlikely. You are seriously underestimating the level of cooperation rest of the world has with each other. Almost half of the US allies pitched in to make JSF possible. If France wouldn’t have seperated from Eurofighter project, it really would have been the eurofighter. Look at NEURON ucav project. Aegis destroyer cooperation between US and Japan. Pak-Fa between India and Russia. These are just the big ticket items, cooperation extends from stealth fighters , guided munitions, takns, artillery, information systems to the smaller items like better fabrics, battlefield medical procedures, better boots and even kevlar underwear. If you look at it in a proper way, China has already lost the arms race before it even started.

This is not the Cold War where the Soviets tried to out do the West militarily. China wants to out do everyone economically, military capability will grow naturally as a result. Like the Soviets China saves money by not making risky bets on next generation concepts. Unlike them, China will have the largest economy in the world, and keeping up will be a breeze.

China doesn’t need to have the best military gadgets. It only needs to keep up with the best, that being the US. Europe, Russia, Japan, none of them are in the same league in the long run.

Thinking this in terms of an arms race is losing the game before it even started.

Murky? It’s as clear as day with the J-15. It is theft, simple.

:rolleyes:

Another problem is the Russian complaint itself seems rather strange. They claim that the orginal contract was to build 200 Su-27, and some of the newer J-11s did not qualify because it didn’t use original Su-27 avionics and were therefore built in breach of contract. It’s plainly rediculous to expect China to use outdated 1990s avionics for new build J-11s.

Now maybe I’m misunderstanding the Russians. But the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accusee. They need to show China has already exceeded the 200 contracted airframes, which they have not. Sukhoi also accused China of trying to export the J-11, but again we have not seen a single export order.

If it’s true that China has not exceeded the 200 contracted airframes, I really don’t see what all the hooplah is all about.

As China invaded Tibet, surely the Dalai Lama has the right to fight, to get back his own country.

DL. is revered worldwide.
OBL. was reviled worldwide.

I imagine that’s how Bin Laden’s supporters feel about their guy.

so did the Dalai Lama make videos of himself declaring war on the western world, training terrorists, etc like Bin Laden? or are you exaggerating the capabilities of the Dalai Lama?

No man. The Dalai Lama is an ally of the Western world and an enemy of China. He was the head of an organization which fought a guerrila campaign for two decades against the Chinese with the help of the CIA. He is at least as obnoxious to China as Bin Laden was to the US.

The T-50 and Flankers have such similar undercarriage the Russians should have no difficulty navalizing. Unless they just don’t plan to operate carriers in the future.

oh so you’re trying to equate the Dalai Lama with Osama Bin laden now?

One man’s freedom fighter, and so on.