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  • in reply to: UK to ditch F35B for Super Hornet? #2376790
    pegon
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    NocutstoRAF,

    I think you are comparing apples to oranges here. The Canadian offer is for the F35a, i believe.

    The plane RN is looking at is the F35b, a plane i believe will be close to 2X the cost.

    in reply to: UK to ditch F35B for Super Hornet? #2376801
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    Remember, if the RN goes for the F18, they will have to buy a tool/spares package as well. This will put a RN F18 in a different price spectrum vs recent USN batches.

    This debate goes into a number of recent threads on this forum: Will LM be able to deliver an AFFORDABLE F35abc ?

    With recent threads beeing all across the board as regards to the price of the F35. And price increase related to the F35b. It is time to ask if the US should can the F35b and introduce cost savings on the a/c ?

    in reply to: New build gen 4.5 fighters for USAF #2383643
    pegon
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    I guess this is the right place to show it. According to the chaps on F-16.net, the F-16 is most advance “4 gen” fighter…

    http://www.f-16.net/news_article4145.html

    Giggle*

    Guess he forgot about the Mig-35…

    in reply to: F-35 news thread II #2400803
    pegon
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    Consider that the Mach 1.6 figure is loaded and armed. Drop the ordinance and expend some fuel and now you’re considerably lighter with the same power. Combat being what it is you’re going to have pilots push it past Mach 1.6 if the aircraft will let them. I would be astonished if a brief excursion to Mach 2 damaged anything at all on the aircraft (assuming it got there).

    No it will be the same, as the plane does not fly at an incline, as mentioned. The acceleration will be better tough.

    pegon
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    Let the debate take its own course. You have been on Key forums long enough to realise that!

    What is the US motive to stop the attack? Can you really see US forces engaging Israeli assets? The greater ally is and always will be Israel. The US might not condone the strike, but it offers the US a perfect excuse to finish the job.

    TJ

    And as the Israelis keep the Iranians occupied, nobody sees the B-2`s flying high.

    A perfect opportunity for them to justify the price. Stealth and subversity hand in hand :=)

    pegon
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    I think someone else has mentioned that option before in a threat couple of years back. Could it have been me? LOL

    Bailing out over the Persian Gulf, to be picked up by Israeli submarines.
    I think technology has outgrown that option.
    If the question is only how to get enough bombs over target remote group control (like A-64D can do with UAVs) is the way to go.
    Take old bizjets and use them as bomb trucks, escort controlled by some twin-seater, or if fancy via sat or Heron relay.

    Weight weight weight! Some massive booom has to be created to hurt those burried targets. Out of reach for tactical aircraft, I think.

    Great idea !

    So how many sorties can the Iran AF produce in a day. If you send the escort in first, can they keep the Iranians occupied until the job is done ?

    Last hurrah for the Phantoms, or turkey shoot ?

    There is a drone kit for the Phantom already, what if you strip things you do not need like radar, fill it with explosives and send it flying inn to the target.

    A Phantom on AB has some kinetic energy, you can look at it like a penetrating warhead if you like 🙂

    pegon
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    Re the buddy-buddy refuelling mentioned here. One problem: since the Phantoms were retired, all Israeli combat aircraft have receptacles for boom refuelling, whils buddy refuelling necessitates the use of drogues & probes. That’s not an insuperable problem, as the strike aircraft could be fitted with probes which fix into the receptacles, but that would
    1) render them unable to use the boom-equipped B707 tankers, unless the tankers were fitted with hose attachments to their booms, &
    2) make refuelling much more difficult, as the receptacles are not well-placed for flying a probe fixed to them into a drogue basket, especially if it’s one of the notoriously difficult to use ones which fit on the end of booms, famous for breaking probes (the RAF hates having to refuel from USAF tankers with those boom/hose combinations, because of that).

    Alternatively, F-16Is could use probe-equipped CFTs, & F-15Is could use probe-equipped underwing tanks (unless someone designs & tests a probe-equipped F-15I CFT – no such thing exists yet). Both of these have the disadvantage of adding drag & reducing total fuel capacity slightly, & would require them to be bought (AFAIK both of these have only been made as prototypes, not put into production), & trained with. It would have the advantage of leaving the receptacles free for boom refuelling.

    As with all the other proposed solutions, buddy-buddy refuelling requires something that Israel does not have, though at least in this case it is something that it could get.

    A 747 tanker wouldn’t be enough, BTW. Not enough fuel offload for all the strike aircraft, & even if it did, it’d take too long to refuel everything from one tanker. You’d end up with streams of strike aircraft, rather than tight packages.

    To add to the 747 tanker problem, you really need it to stay on station to top up returning fighters. If the Iranian air defense prove unable to shoot down strikers, you at least have to allow for them to use AB for defensive/combat action. No point in running out of fuel, half way home.

    In short, as has been said before in this tread; Iran is outside IDF`s offensive range.

    To add another option to Distillers ideas. What if the strikers does not have to return home ?
    i am thinking of something old and fast here like the Phantoms. Load them up with bombs and let the pilots bail out when the load is delivered.
    You need lightly loaded fighters for escort, and massive jamming.
    Have Mossad come up with a plan to extract the pilots.

    Game ?

    pegon
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    Not a clever idea as long the West is not willing to force secure borders for Israel in the true sense.
    None is against Iranian reactors for peaceful purposes. None of Irans neighbors are capable to challenge the being of Iran as a country and by that to justify atomic weapons as last defence option. 😉

    The problem with your view is that status quo is untenable. The west has dominated the world since Columbus missed on India, by a narrow margin.

    Are you willing to give that up ?

    The issue over Israel is what split the west from forming a united front in the middle east.

    Iran can not be let to have nuclear arms, for that something has to give.

    Israel seems to have managed to defend itself well by conventional means.

    This while China grows stronger by the day.

    pegon
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    I estimate that in a not so distant future, the EU, the US and Canada will form a new economical and strategic alliance with fixed exchange rates between their currencies and a slow coordination of their economical and foreign policies. A process similar to the one currently still on-going inside the european Union.

    This is indeed the only way the west may be able to retain hegemony. Iran is a major test for western resolve.

    To create a unified western response, USA may have to give up its unbiased support for Israel.

    The best compromise is a nuclear disarmament of Israel, in return for Iran giving up its high yield reactors.

    in reply to: EK orders 32 more A380s #545625
    pegon
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    Great! This means Airbus must be close to breaking even on the A380 programme! Oh….wait……:p

    Did someone just leave you with sore nipples ?

    🙂

    in reply to: Turkey vs Israel #2382763
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    Turkey is a member of NATO, what is the NATO option if Israel launcheda a clear aggression against Turkey with conventional weapons / or Israel launched a nuclear strike against Turkey?
    What will be the position of Iran and some Arab countries if Turkey attacked by Israel?.

    One might ask if it is the Israeli intention to drag the west into its fight for existence, as they see it increasingly difficult to win on its own ?

    Turkey is not Al Qaida, it is a moderate secular state. And it was one of the few friends Israel had.

    Fundamentalist muslims and Israelis, are more than willing to drag the west and moderate muslims into this, lets hope they dont get what they are looking for.

    in reply to: Turkey vs Israel #2382894
    pegon
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    I’ve worked with the Turkish military, and I’d put my money on Israel any day of the week. It will always amaze me why the EU invited the Turks to become a member – I personally found them to be absolutely corrupt, from shoe cleaners to military generals.
    On a one-to-one basis, nobody in the world can match the Israelis for logistical planning and its application!

    Where do you get this idea of these Israeli supersoldiers. They just killed 9 demonstrators on a ship in international waters. There are only 2 explanations to this.

    1. They were incompetent.

    2. They planned it.

    Either way you put this, it is a disaster for Israel.

    in reply to: Norway vs. China #2386662
    pegon
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    This however leaves us disinterested in Norway, as we still use the Krona.

    pegon
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    Yet, you must confess that the an-124 is the only option to a new design if you want a strategic airlifter in this size class.

    My guess is that a new western design is cost prohibitive, so USA must get this or stick with what they have.

    For Russia it may be the only way to get the cash to restart production.

    All in all its win, win, if they can overcome the hurdle of old conflicts.

    in reply to: Reality of F-35 production cost #2403769
    pegon
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    Its a mad, mad world….

    🙂

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