Yes me for starters (aircraft engineer) because they break the bloody fittings

1º”Huge nose limiting forward visibility for landing”

And me thinking that those images above would kill this claim, nevermind…

I refer you to mine and others comments regarding A of A

2º “Canard placement impairs veiw on landing”

Because you have been sitting on a Phoon and evaluated that for yourself, right?

There is a proposed suggestion as i stated to blow air accross the deck to reduce the A of A so asto improve landing visibility because the Canards impair landing visibility, this soloution would not be proposed if it wasnt required and it wouldnt be required if there wasnt an issue QED typhoon has restrictions on forward visibility on landing.

3º “Beefing up of landing gear”

Never been done on previous aircrafts…

4º “Beefing up of structure for trap and cat”

read point three

Yes very good 2 rough field capable aircraft (so the gear is much tougher already) that dont catapult launch thus removing this stress.

It is probable the aft fuselage has been beefed up for the tail hook.

Arrested landings are very stressful on the airframe and the surrounding structure has to be very robust and thus equally heavy in the typhoon this would be dead weight so it has not got this structural strength.

See the f35 thread for the problems it would cause if they have to relocate the tailhook.

5º “changing structure as required for corrosion resistance”

Read point three

That should have stated if required, however again you are flat out wrong harrier had to be marinised to become Sea harrier (magnesium removed from exposed structure)
WAH 64 has been subject to an awfull lot of corrosion prevention and treatment to marinise it.

What´s next, the Typhoon cant be turned into an aircraft carrier because the paint his grey?

oh tee hee such witty sarcasm

No the grey colour is fine, of course the paint may not be suitable for a maritime environment.

Converting a land base aircraft to naval use is not as easy as some (Bae SAAB) would have us believe.

Anybody in a position of authority who seriously advocates a Naval Typhoon should be shot at dawn and there head placed on a spike over traitors gate, because for the damage such a project would achieve to the defence budget that is what their actions would amount to.

regards

IIRC the smaller nose (wrt the tiffy etc) on the Rafale is a result of visibility requirements for landing on carriers.

Another reason a naval Typhoon isnt really a viable option with its bulbus great radome.

Whichever aircraft wins I am (somewhat in vain I suspect) that the respective fanboys comments do not degenerate into
“This proves that aircraft X is better than aircraft Y” and / or “Aircraft X was really evaluated as being superiour but Y won beacause of insert reason”.

Both aircraft met the requirements both aircraft are better and worse in different areas, as reflected by delberate design decisions (not as some would have incompetance/afterthoughts etc.

As i have said before the competition winner will be the aircraft that best suits the indian requirements be they political, industrial, or military. I will carefully ignore financial because no aircraft will meet what a treasury department wants to pay ie F22 at Sopwith camel (or Spad lest I start a flame war) prices.

Good luck to all (but Tiffy in particular) and heres hoping that the various subsequent leaks indicate the final decision was down to tot, thus enhancing even the losers image in the market place.

not intending to rain on the naming convention parade, but internally we are referring to them as UAS to reflect that unmanned assets are part of the systems construct.

UAS also covers off the prev iterations including TUAV.

although publicly they still get called UAV’s etc out of convenience (much like people call VLO platforms “stealth”), they’re UAS.

eg the “official” systems sheets for P8 refer to UAS management, not UAV management

and to reinforce, I attended a closed workshop (Govt/Select Industry) in London where the briefings were about UAS.

The CAA (and others) also use the term UAS for the reasons detailed above,
From what i gathered from a recent while the whole UAS thing is still in its early days and as such the legislation for civil operators (police forces) is largely in work, it looks like that the Authority will require the ground station to hold a TSO related to the associated UAV.

I wonder if there is or ever will be a formal incident report?
There appears to be the pic. and similarly wonder if there was a vid. which may help clarify any issues as to how long in milliseconds the engine pod/cowling made contact with the ground.
NRT is getting busier everyday and the cross wind problem isn’t going to get better.

There is always a formal incident report. (disregarding certain 3rd world airlines and countries)

As for the inspection level it would depend on where it struck and obviously how har/ how hard it appeared to strike.

clearly if the fairing is only grazed it has only touched gently.

There are frangiable links on the engine pylons designed to give way before wing damage occurs.

It may well be it will go for further inspection later.

To be honest my comments after the initial sarcastic 1 were meant as more of an insert hated / favourite type here,

i wasnt intending to be platform or poster specific

Edit – missposted

I agree a lot of best platform ever type comments are Hyperbole as they are with any comments of this kind.

I disagree that the typhoon would have played with everything against a restricted SU30 in a desperate attempt to prove its worth given the MMRCA Bids. If that was the case the Indians would Know it and so it would fail to impress (hence my comment about selecting facts and ignoring others) it doesnt stand up to a logic test.

Im not sure how many rounds he fired or had available, but if we assume 200 thats not that difficult or suspicious to amass, in days gone by I reguarly held upwards of a hundred rounds for the shot gun sometimes up to *200 (only 8 boxes at 25 a box)

* Due to a selection of load types for different targets eg Clays, rabbits and Geese
Not because I thought The russians/martians/Machines or Living dead wrere coming.