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the carrier on the pic u posted on 28th February 2005, 19:01 seems to be the FOCH
also the pic shows no extreme aft /crane/ASM pod placement on the port side so thats why i feel its not the CdG

The picture of the exercise? That surely must be the CdG during the exercise last year in April; at least according to the French site I got it from. Furthermore, I cannot think of a Foch with so many Rafales on it!! Moreover, the Foch was already retired in Oct 2000 and sold to Brazil. The picture also fits into the series of the exercise on which also the ships in the background appear again and again.

Some photos I found:

From here , many more there as well.

I think they are stored in these overhangings from the flightdeck? :confused:

Or they do not exist!! :diablo:

While searching for the question where exactly the CdG leaves its lifeboates, brought forward by Blackcat, I stumbled on a very interesting virtual tour of the CdG using Quicktime. Most interesting is that you can take a 360 degree view inside the hangar (from both sides of it)!!

http://www.defense.gouv.fr/sites/defense/mediatheque/mediatheque041007/vv_pa_cdg.html

You have to click on the labels to the right to get to the views. 😎 You cab also grab the general picture and drag the CdG around.

These views strenghten me in my belief that the speculative pics of the arrangement of aircraft inside the hangar of the former AG might be a bit optimistic.

There absolutely won’t be any “trade war.” Chinese economy strives on going forward. The Japanese have been talking about withdrawing it’s investment for ages. Please take a look at chinese foreign reserves and you’ll see that the Japanese loans are but a drop in the bucket. But if limited conflict breaks out then the chinese might consider a 100% or 200% levy on all Japanese imports just to put strain on the Japanese industries and covertly pressure Tokyo to come to some understanding where both parties could actually share the resources around the islands.

Bleehhhh, stop viewing these two countries in isolation!!! 😡
These two countries are both essential for the current world economy; even the slightest amount of serious tension, let alone shooting conflict, would put the world economy on its ass, to the detriment of the whole world and especially the two countries involved. Why? Simply, because investors want stability and credibility and thus a stable peace without adventurous politicians. Hostile action ==> first hot money flows out and if stability doesn’t return very fast the rest later will go later on and greenfield investment may be cancelled or put to another place.
But hé, the world is already tied to China and Japan, isn’t it? Yes of course it is and that’s why I said “to the detriment of the whole world”. If stability ceases to be, risk premia will go up (discount factors!!) and investments lose value at a rapid pace; people want to get rid of them. Serious financial (whether it be exchange, currency or banking) crisis may not be a strange phenomenon. And of course, the world will take action and not remain passive and may even get seriously involved one way or another. This involvement will have unpredictable results, may be favorable or not, but it will induce speculation (oil/gold prices!!!) and panic on the markets.
IMHO this disastrous economic fallout will prevent these two countries from doing things they will regret.

And for that, like the Granit’s on the Russian carrier, Brahmos PJ-10 wud most likely find place on Gorshkov, and the most likely place that i can find w/o much ‘digging’ is the area where earlier the Klinok used to say anchored, which cud also mean that the aft elevator wont be enlarged to include that area.

How can you be so sure of the Brahmos placement? Do you have any authoritive sources on this “following-of-the-Russian-concept” of carriers?
To me the pictures of the hangar seems extremely cramped and, moreover, they do not show an increased number of aircraft than has been reasonably suggested (max 16). Of course aircraft could be place on deck additionally, but with the hangar already stocked to the roof like on the pictures this would not allow flexible servicing / moving of the aircraft, unless you send them up in the sky to move planes around.

Wow 😮 😮 😮 That’s some photo…