Wanshan,
Could you supply more information on those maneuvers?
What ships take part on it (heard that Walrus arrived to Willemstead last week too)
When did started and when finished
Where to get more info on it?
Many thanks…
Hi Wanshan:D
long time!
Yes, for sure the PN will keep both frigates with same layout as Dutch although I read somewhere they could also get the upgrade in sensors being planned for the 2 remaining Dutch “M”s (but that looks for me more like wishfull thinking, depending on the $$$$$$$) :rolleyes:
btw,
Can you tell me if the Van Nes is still in the Antilles?
Thx
Rgds
Till late this year. Those pics were taken during Panamax 2007
You’re absolutely right, and they came at the same conclusion – they currently are developing and installing a major surface and subsurface national surveillance system, with totally new assets and capabilities – it actually is one of the best funded programmes in Russia nowadays, almost better than the one of the nuclear deterrence forces – the only difference is that no one (wants) to (pay any) notice – it’s not so spectacular. But HALE? – they’re not soooo stupid :p
Now that sounds interesting RSM-55!.
Is that thing based on MGK-608 floor based sonar surveillance system? I heard about that system on Rosoboronexport site, and some russian sites suggest it entered into service…
Could you comment more on it?, what about technical capabilities?, feel free to add anything you can don’t want to put you on problems if the topic is sensitive, althrough I have to admit I’m deeply interested…have been such a system (MGK-608) exported?
Marabu was a supposedly plasma-stealth (plasmagenic?) kind of equipment slatted for 3M25 series of cruise missiles (Meteorit)
This one is just a LO one.
😎 Braaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazil, vs…Sweeden?
Boys, you’re…13 years out of date, that happened ONCE
World Cup 1994, semifinals 😀 :p
OK Arth, go for it, and ban me 😀 😮 :diablo: :dev2: 🙂 😮 😉
Would not they be better trying to wait for Gripen-NG?
Unless that one is a conventional warhead missile only (by the moment)
My opinion, those are aerodynamic tests of full weapons carriage onboard Bear-H, no other explanation for hanging up 8 missiles under pylons at the same time.
Probably operating out of Akhtubinsk, itsn’t RSM-55?
:p
What about a new Bear? 😀
Now that they restarted engine production …
Plasma Beaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
:p :p :p :p
As a result of theoretical and experimental research, a database of difficult signals was developed, along with signal processing hardware with a speed of 10 billion operations per second, plus other components.
What the 😮 …
Signal processing?, complex operations?…10.000 MFLOPS?…
Really?, No kidding?
I read it and remind myself of “Drago” from Rookie.
Russians have a fun (for some westerners) talk morphology, but this is extreme. I would not be surprised if all this Col Ret Medved thing is a hoax.
Calm down dear – its only an advert! (meaningless unless you live in the UK)
I got a signed ‘freebie’ – ‘cos I helped with proof reading the English translation.
It is part one – and covers the development of the T10 – up to the flight testing of the prototypes.
It is very in-depth – too much so for the English/western casual market IMHO.
This is no coffee table book – it has chapters on each of the 10+ design variations studied – with charts, layouts, wind tunnel model data etc – really really in-depth.
In typical Russian style, it lists all the people involved at every stage – including, almost, the shop floor cleaners!
Ildar told me that Part two – covering the T10S and production – will be released in Russian next year – possibly at Gelendzhik.
The English translation of part two is due at MAKS 09.
I’ll take some photos/scans of the book and post them here – in the meantime, the website (in Russian) is here.
The ‘Knigi’ (Books) section is at http://www.be-and-co.com/books/ – but there is, as yet, no photo of the English edition.
The ISBN btw is :- 5-901668-13-8
Ken
Ken, please if you can help me find out how to buy the book from Venezuela (internet site?) please help me, I have been waiting this book from 1 year ago.
If Martinez or anybody else could help me on this, please please! 😮
Sainz, if you have a single pic of a MiG-29 from Afghanistan (at the times of the Afghanistan war) that you can show us, no matter if water marked (protected) or anything else, you would have my forever respect and admiration.
I have never heard that MiG-29 operated INSIDE Afghanistan.,
Venezuelan’s Su-30MK2’s radar is the same used on Chinese’s Su-30MK2 and Vietnamise’s Su-30MK2V:
NIIP im. Tikhomirov N-001VEP.
Nothing to do with Bars.
I ask people, what’s difference between Skat project and Neuron project.
The design of the MiG Skat indicates that the objective is all-aspect LO. That pretty much follows from the design of any UCAV, in that UCAVs can’t shoot back or otherwise respond to a threat. Wideband? Probably, since the ability to do wideband depends on having a configuration that can be protected on all edges by serious RAS.
Can they do it? There is a known and documented Russian stealth program that has yielded operational RCS-reduction kits and has certainly got as far as large-scale RCS models. Look at the Tu-160…
Once you understand the basic principles, what takes time and money is all the details – maintainability, doors, apertures. What France and UK have realized, though, that you can only do so much on the pole and that the graduation exercise is to build a demonstrator like an old Lindberg model – it’s not the real thing but all the doors and other moving bits work. Watch Japan doing the same thing.
There’s nothing impossibly wrong about Skat, although the inlet looks odd. I suspect that it’s a graduation exercise and a bait for foreign partners.
There’s more than one way to skin a cat… unless it’s the one that disappears bit by bit until all you can see is the grin.
What it’s really interesting is the new standpoint the Russian are researching about stealth possibilities.
If you check the promised (or let’s say hypotetized) PAK-FA specs on this area and multiple other ones, Russians came to believe that steatlh for aircrafts (or maybe for flying vehicles) was not capable to get down the -20 dBsm area (0.01 m2 RCS) and that could bring an identificable limit point to how strap such design compromises in a manned aircraft. Check the Sukhoi and NIIP papers on new aircraft and radars, and most of them would tell you (specially by early 2000) than F-22A’s RCS was about 0.03 (pretty in line in the -20 dBsm) m2 area. Those could be well propaganda from the respective bureaus (even if those appeared on Russian Academy of Scienes journal) or could be a valid (then) standpoint made by 2 TsNII (2nd Central Research Institute, the main Russian MoD Institute dealing with Low Observable research for aircraft). It’s a similar issue as the 50-70s era standpoint on noise reduction for submarines, where Gorkshov (the holy cow of the Soviet Navy) in all his wisdom didn’t care about the issue, before too much things happened that started to made change his mind and valid the point that SUBMARINES NEED TO BE QUIET (and not speedy, check the 705 Lira, or Alfa)…Walker spy ring, multiple Soviet Navy high command complaints, understanding of tactical limitations of contemporary systems, and even BELIEVING WHAT INTEL (GRU) TOLD THEM…they ended in late 70s researching Akula, Kilo, Sierra, Delta-IV, Typhoon, Oscar…all quiter, all with heavy emphasis on noise reduction.
It could well be that with the activation of F-22A units, more intel assesments about the topic (plus other stealth related projects) could have reached Russia and made 2 TsNII change his mind on the issue…”-20 dBSm stealth is feasible for aircrafts”…
But for manned ones?…is worth the cost?, could PAK-FA be redirected to such goals given money constraints?
I think Russians are approaching a new mindset on stealth (and Skat is a stelath platform or at least an idea of a trully stealth platform) in this topic, and Skat could well be a DEMOVAL of such new understanding along the whole Russian BPLA program (BPLA = UCAV). Skat is after all, more of a test platform as Neuron is.
Just some crazy ideas.
Compare that POS with our brand new and beatiful Su-30Mk2 here at Venezuela…boy, when I saw those birds first time I thought they were built at France or USA…what a finish!!!!…
Could be possible between different Russian factories so much diference on tolerance finish?