wasn`t “”MC`Roberts reply”” a Stirling that had the name on two different aircraft because the first got struck off after squashing a Spitfire
like the Mustang taking off. different angle to most flying shots mostly seen
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some air force display change the type of aircraft they use over the years. the Hawks been around for a long time since the Gnat was used by the Yellow Jacks and the Red Arrows of old. a time for change would have been great say 10 years ago before the world really went to pot and we all knew who the bad guys were. a 4 or 6 aircraft Harrier display team would have been fantastic. after all the Harrier was a British idea but alas they are no more.
perhaps mothball the hawks as a diplay team and hand the guantlet over to another RAF sqn for lets say 5 years. Eurofighter display team perhaps?….
as for the comments regarding the future of the Reds so soon after a tragic loss. im sure they are not meant with any dis`respect to the pilot nor family but things do change and sometimes after a major incident such as this the doom sayers in politics or chiefs of staff who have been waiting in the shadows whilst grinding their axes will try and find a way to cut back in whatever way they can. unfortunately at this current time with so many cut backs and our front line guys and girls struggling to fight with the kit and support they have this may an ideal time for the axe to fall…
Could this be it?
that looks as though its the area, the house over the road and behind the petrol station sign is still there.. the house in the crash photo that has the mud splatted on it looks as though in the google maps pic that it has had an extention built from where the small pitched part of the roof that can be seen in the crash shot and where the the hedge line is between the houses in the google maps pic seems to be where the initial impact point was for the Canberra??.
I think I see what you mean…you are suggesting bottom left to top right?
thats it. its difficult to describe due to the angle of the shot..
i would even go as far to say the the aircraft hit the ground at a knife edge angle with one wing tip pointing to the ground and the other pointing to the sky due to the sharp impact crater rather than at a flatter angle where there would have been more devistation at the impact point otherwise… this may account for the death of the pilot? because the bang seats in those days were quite limited for safe ejection at low hight and low speed, if the aircraft had been slightly over the vertical axis at the time of ejection the pilot would be pointing towards the ground rather than to the sky. thus limiting even more the safe zone for ejection. most military ejecter seats nowerdays are the zero zero type where the pilot can eject from a stationary aircraft on the ground or even upside down (hight permitting) for the seat to automaticaly right itself before parachute deployment if need be. in all probability the Canberra pilot stayed with the aircraft until the last second to either try and save the aircraft or to steer it clear of the town, much in the same way it seems with the recent and very sad loss of the Red Arrows pilot.
the lack of damage to the hedge on the left of shot and the amount of damage to the white car at right of shot would suggest a left to right impact with a high rate of vertical descent involved within the left to right momentum of the aircraft. enough to throw the sods of mud up the house but also to throw wreckage and debris over the road after hitting the grassed area near the hedge first.
the lack of fire/scorch damage to the white car would also suggest that any fire took place out of shot over to the right.
the house on the left is peppered with what looks like mud with a large lump of the aircraft on the ground to the side of it. across the street you can see the damage to buildings and cars. interesting to see that the road looks as though its still open to traffic so soon after the disaster!!..
I prefer the Swiss air Ambulance,,,,,
i think that would have finished her off lol…
she didnt look to bad, good colour in her cheeks etc. i think it was more of a heavy tumble rather than anything life threatning but the location was way way up the mountain so to far for road transportation, hence the heli
this should tie down the exact location for you. looks as though it hit from left to right through the picture.
be interesting to see an updated picture of the area
that was a good old fashioned crash near the end (tu16). no CGI just like the A team tv series. great how they managed to hit the only building there.
theres a link to thw “walt” types in the arrse, in the “and here it all ends” part
theres a link to thw “walt” types in the arrse, in the “and here it all ends” part
in the dark distant dusty corners of my memory the Mitty chap was i think a WW2 era guy who passed famously himself off as someone else. i cant fully remember though so dont quote me on that..
the collectors assistant didnt have the authority to collect by all accounts. he had in the past been seen in RAF uniform collecting on behalf of whoever?. i dont think the Regiment lads took kindly to him wearing a uniform and beret that he hadnt earned the hard way…
enjoyed the arrse write up though