I thought it was a good event, if still a bit quiet compared to previous years.
I missed one or two items (see MarkG’s thread for one and I believe the other was a Hastings control column???!!!) but still picked up some interesting stuff.
As we’ve already said, most of the stall holders are from the North or Midlands and would never be seen at Shoreham or Popham.
Lastly, the Halifax throttles are now with R.L. He seemed confident of being able to replicate them but is waiting for the drawings before making a start.
….meanwhile, hope Sunday goes well. Andy Saunders
…er, that’s Saturday as in S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y! :rolleyes:
LOonks in nice condition though still worth saving.
Yours for $4,500 USD on Barnstormers!
Here’s a partial answer, Deryck, an extract from A.P.1086, Part 3C showing that these plates are used in conjunction with components 5D/662 and 5D/1067 which are the covers for the Bomb Distributors, Type VI (16 point) and VII (32 point).
Hence, I would assume that it would be part of the armourer’s job to select the relevant Tablet (according to the bomb load being carried) and to display it somehow on the Distributor’s cover ( I haven’t got one to hand at present so I’m unclear on how he would do this. Some kind of holder, presumably). The bomb-aimer would then follow the instructions and ensure the necessary settings were made on the Selector Box and Distributor.
Regarding the Emergency Computor, I get the impression that it was carried by the B/A as part of his kit. Although, to me, it would seem logical to keep one in a stowage somewhere in his compartment, I cannot recall a mention of one in any A.P.
Thanks for posting these images, Deryck. They have brightened up an otherwise dull monday morning.
A P.M. to follow…
If the Lancaster cd-rom is anything to go by, there will still be plenty of Halifax mysteries left, Cees.
All you really get are lots of photos of preserved machines, with all the inaccuracies, missing equipment and recent mods etc that are found within them. Relatively little from the A.P.s and what there is, is colourised and dumbed down, presumably to appeal to the wider audience.
£14.95 maybe but at £26.95, I think they’re having a larf.
Jmho!
Looking forward to it, Dave.
Browsing a stall will always be so much more fun than browsing an internet site – and prices are usually cheaper, too.
Oh, and Cees, don’t forget to remind me about the Halifax throttles – I’ve got a head like Dutch cheese.
Yes, I saw that and wondered.
I have the Pilot’s Notes for the Mosquito XX and XXV, and the Volume I for the Lancaster X.
Both show the bfp to be based on the shape of a standard Mk IA with curved top, but with cut-outs modified to suit the type of artificial horizon, altimeter fitted.
This one appears to have instruments of all-American or Canadian manufacture, apart from a British art/h which has been slipped into place (notice the “spare” hole at it’s lower right).
The only photo I can recall showing a similarly shaped panel is from a Canadian Anson (it may even be the same one in his ad). Some British built Ansons had a very similar panel post-war.
I agree with the vendor (who visits this forum btw) that it is reminiscent of a Defiant seat.
Unfortunately, and as he says, the control column mountings were attached to the front of the seat and this area appears to have been removed by a previous owner, thus making positive i.d. more difficult.
Alas, the various stamps he refers to don’t mean nuttin’ to me.
It needs a lot of work
So did this one Elliott, and it was in much the same condition as yours. Good luck with it!
Sory for the delay in responding Dave.
So far in the month of October, I’ve had no internet access for a total of nine days, due to seperate BT and ISP problems. I’m seriously thinking about cable.
Here is a small-ish scan of the PRXI panel (or what I assume is the PRXI). The “F”s show the position of the fuel gauges.
Also, the panel of the Mk IX, from the Pilot’s Notes.
A wartime picture showing an Aus A/H in a modified BFP would be appreciated in return (for ref. purposes).
Regards
Hi Dave,
I’m studying a factory drawing of what I believe to be a Spitfire XI panel (certainly a Merlin engined PR Spitfire) and there are numerous differences between yours and this one.
For example, there are two of the large diameter fuel gauges in the bottom r/h corner, plus another three fuel gauges scattered across the panel.
The top of the panel is largely taken up by a Type 35 Camera Control Box with a large instruction plate to it’s left.
Your’s looks to be based on a more standard fighter panel, but with mods for modern equipment.
Plus, the blind flying panel appears to deviate from a stock item – the cut-out for the artificial horizon has two small “notches” on the vertical centre line which look to be for a post war A/H.
Just my impressions, and a Spifire expert may come along and shoot me down.
[alan partridge]Which would be a cowardly thing to do as a Spitfire XI is unarmed and can’t fight back.[/alan partridge] 😀
Many of you already know that I collect pretty much anything to do with wartime cockpit equipment, hence control columns, rudder pedals, throttle quadrants, instrument panels, instruments, switches, and “general bakelite”.
I also have gun turrets, wireless, radar, flying clothing, gunsights and bombsights/bomb related electrical equipment.
Wartime Air Publications, particularly Volume Is, original Pilot’s Notes, and A.V. Roe/Lancaster related paperwork.
The wife left years ago!
It’s what it says on the box, Elliott.
A Mk. IV Computor Unit, part of the Type F Torpedo Director.
I’m not sure about the wartime use of this equipment (maybe later Beaufighters and Barracudas), but it was probably intended for the Spearfish, Wyvern and Sturgeon, and may have ended up in the Gannet.
Co-incidentally, torpedo, bomb and gunsights may be the subject of Volume 4. 😎
…and while I’m at it….
The dimming shield from a standard Air Ministry warning lamp. Like the button cover, they can be flipped up or down, as required. Yours has broken off, just below the hinge.
There were probably several of these in the Mosquito cockpit.
😉 😉 😉
Hi Nils,
From my first posting, the button cover is for a fire extinguisher switch. It normally guards the button from accidental operation and has to be flipped up, as seen on the left.
The second photo shows what I’m fairly certain is the lens from an ultra-violet cockpit lamp of the type shown to it’s right. These were an early attempt at introducing fluorescent lighting for instruments (doing away with the radium painted type). The Mosquito seems to have been one of the few aircraft to have used this system which uses mercury vapour discharge lamps to produce the u.v. light. You can sometimes spot these distinctive lamps in Mosquito cockpit photos.