All MiG-29s have chaff/flare dispensers in the fin roots (except many MiG-29UB twinseaters used solely for training)

OK, perhaps these were broken too [in keeping with alot of other things on those Fulcrums], the article doesn’t mention decoys once.

I’ll post information from the Kosovo conflict later on when I get home 🙂

Details of the kosovo conflict, in chronological order.

Arizanov – Aircraft destroyed with ejection for one known missile launch [his MiG-29 had unserviceable radio and RWR].

IIlic – Struck, but still flyable with one known missile launch, landed safely [unserviceable radar].

Nikolic – Missed by two missiles before being hit by a third forcing ejection [again, unserviceable radar and also unserviceable missile guidance computer].

Kulacin – Broke radar contact alert from RWR, not known whether missiles fired or not [tried to get broken radar and guidance computer working – no success] landed safely.

Milutinovic – Again, broke a radar contact from RWR, but with no electrical generator and radar was forced to return to Nis, but was painted by a ground based radar and struck by a missle – forced ejection.

Peric – Avoided one confirmed missile launch but hit by 2nd – ejected safely. [again broken radar]

Radosavljevic – Unknown, presumed killed by 2 incoming missiles [speculation doubts radar was working]

Pavlovic – Killed by either an AMRAAM or Strela-2M [INS broken along with electrical generator]

Thats 10 missile launches for 6 A2A kills [including Pavlovic kill as A2a and assuming both Radosavljevic missiles would have mission kill].

60% success rate is quite a ways short of the invincible weapon some would have you believe.

Its also worth pointing out not one of the MiG-29s was in a state approaching those of a serviceable warplane, so it would not be unreasonable to expect an even lower kill ratio against a better equipped [i.e. working aircraft!] airforce.

*Source – AFM Jan 2002 pg 56-63

Some people think that because of the way it looks in photographs. These people see in radio wavelengths and thus are able to tell just by looking.

Well, surface discontinuities are a good place to start – radar waves will scatter off them.

Compare the Rafale and Typhoon, its clear to see which one comes out best.

Dassault have openly admitted to developing the D [discrete/discret en francais] version of the Rafale whereas the Eurofighter consortium have concentrated on frontal RCS values alone.

Why do they bother .

To keep their independence.

Consider:

The Europeans had decided not to build the EF2000, Gripen and the Rafale.

They would be forced to buy American [due to obviously political leanings] – after buying American the indigenous aircraft industries would die [or at the very least, lose all their R&D edge].

After buying JSFs to replace Tornados. M2000s, Phantoms etc etc, what happens if the european and american economies begin to compete quite aggressively?

What would then happen when the JSFs need replacing?

What I was trying to point out is the attitude that the Russians have; namely that the US is a threat to them. People seem so anxious to “forget” that throughout the Cold War, the USSR was the agressor and threat, never the US. The Americans never had any designs on invading and raising the flag in Moscow, Minsk, and Leningrad. You cannot say the same thing about the Russians’ thoughts regarding Paris, Berlin, and London.

Aww man!

A propaganda victim if ever there was one – thing is, you’ll probably come back and argue this by simply not knowing any better. 🙁

Question: Which came first, NATO or the warsaw pact?
Question: Who deployed the first true strategic bomber of the cold war era?
Question: Who was the first to directly threaten the other with the presence of IRBMs or ICBMs?
Question: Who developed the first stealth aircraft, which by keeping it a secret, was not exactly a very good deterrant but more a military surprise for a real war?
Question: Which weapons were deployed first? The Jupiters to Turkey or the SS-4/SS-5s in Cuba?

Doubtless I could go on and on, but hopefully you get the picture.

Done for A400M, at least partly. But it is not that easy. 😀

But doesn’t the problems with the A400M stem from the load carrying composite structures? [more specifically the wing]

Hi Schorsch- Maybe you wont have to sell your Grandma for the Eurofighter but how about your Mother in Law.

😀 😀 😀

That would be a good plus point to the Eurofighter surely 😀