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  • in reply to: J-10 MASS Production Starts. #2681573
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    FLEX 297

    For BVR J-8 is there. Adding BVR to J-7 is absurdity. If you agree with my last point there is no reason for you for not agreeing with my first points. This is J-10 thread. I don’t want to waste it in explaining why i believe like this.

    in reply to: J-10 MASS Production Starts. #2681598
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    Originally posted by Multirole
    You can change the engine of a F-16 in 30 minutes. This require 6+ operators. The Israelis invented rapid turn around time. The secret is having lots of trained techies and lots of spare parts. Worry about maintinenece after the war.

    One of the big draws of 5th gen fighters like the Typhoon is sub 30-minute turn around times. Which translates to multi sorties per day instead of once every other day. If Chinese J-10s are supplied with one engine each, the Taiwan air force can buy a very small number of 5th gen fighters and match PLAAF sortie rate.

    I don’t know why you’re so defensive on the aircraft sniping issue. Raids on enemy airfield with ground troops is standard procedure. Look up the SAS raid on Argentine airfield during the Falklands. That sort of mission is only made easier today with long range anti-material guns. And I’m sure you if you can sneaking in to take photos of a J-10 you are well close enough to take it out. Especially when there is no language or physical appearance differences.

    Frankly it’s a hell lot easier for Taiwanese agents to do sabotage on the mainland than vice versa. And Taiwan has a history of doing these penetration raids.

    China has well developed Intelligence network and Discipline military. You should take your shallow opinion elsewhere. Some weak countries may need it.

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    Re: Thats a very nice news

    Originally posted by dirtyharry
    China should deploy J10 right now and do more to facing India in southwest. India planned to buy 140 Mkis and maybe Backfire bombers, Mirage 2000/5s. China should do faster than India can finish her military explansion plans.
    And India is using Agni missles target China’s city, China should do something to stop this!

    India will build 140 MKI but only when the rest of the world will be flying Space Ships.

    The will get M2K5 but only when the rest of airforce is already crashed.

    Never heared of J-7 crashing on people heads. Somebody was trying to compare J-7 with junk like Bisons.

    China does not need to do any thing to stop India. India is irrelevant and unimportant. India has to do 1 billion Air to air excercises with NATO before even China will take notice of them.

    PS. This is J-10 thread started by SD-10. I don’t want to pollute with India.

    in reply to: Russians sell carrier to India #2687311
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    The cost of first vessel is put at $6B from your post. Operating expenditure at almost $1B. I doesnot look very good in terms of price. 24 Su type aircraft will an addition. And it is very little strike package interms of money. I think China should get license of RAFALE and build 300 after embargo is hopefully lifted in near future. Sukhoi is now poor man aircraft. Every nation in Asia have it. Rafale is an expensive project. France will unlikely to share its technology with the countries with out big money. Money should more spend on AESA radars for all the other aircrafts.

    in reply to: Russians sell carrier to India #2688553
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    Originally posted by Haleyoneshoemak
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    I have read about China Aircraft carriers. The reason i didnot start the thread about them because some people are trying to create a particular image (Which is ofcourse not real) through purchase of Aircraft carrier. China will only seriously consider Aircraft carrier when its AWACS, AEW , Satellite, Air defence, Aircraft technologies are atleast in someway at par with US. First China has to create complete infrastructure for those associated technologies. Ship building will always be a strong point of China. You will see than two or three carriers building simultaneosly. But there is still time left for that to happen.

    in reply to: J-10 MASS Production Starts. #2688555
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    Ofcours China will be offering complete Avionics suite along with radar, weopons and engine.etc. One cannot rely on Russian for China export sucess. Type 1473 radar technology is mostly based on Zhuk family or Elta technology. There will be China radar for FC-1. But it will depend on customer how much it want to pay for the development cost. I will prefer Thales RC-400 radar any day on Russian based technology. Our own Su-30MK has only 120 KM Fighter detection range as compared to RC-400 100KM. And see the difference between Su-30 and FC-1 nose size. And if some body is putting Russian radar detection range in several hundreds of kilometers they must be reading Indian literature.
    A-50 has only 220KM fighter detection range. I doubt that SD-10 can hit targets beyond 30 or 40KM in tail chase engagement. 70 to 80KM will be the best range in head on engagement. Pakistan should buy some AWACS instead of putting more into FC-1.

    in reply to: FC-1 thread (news and pictures) #2689496
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    China Daily Jun 13, 2003

    China’s Super-7 new-generation fighter aircraft is expected to make its maiden test flight later this year, a senior engineer with the China Aviation Industry Corp I (AVIC I) said yesterday in Beijing.

    A prototype of the “all-weather, multipurpose fighter jet” has just been completed by the Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Group, a branch of the Beijing-based AVIC I in Southwest China’s Sichuan Province, said Gao Zhicong.

    Gao, who is in charge of the project, said the new model represents China’s most sophisticated light fighter for the 21st- century combat environment.

    China independently designed and built the fighter, Gao said.

    The single-seat, turbofan engine-powered fighter will go into volume production once tests have been successfully carried out, he said.

    “The Super-7 aims to gradually replace the F-7, MiG-21 and Q-5 series aircraft that are currently in service in both China and some developing countries,” he told China Daily in an exclusive interview.

    A model of the military aircraft, which is also codenamed the Super-7/FC-1, debuted at an airshow in Zhuhai in South China’s Guangdong Province last year. It attracted keen interest from many visitors, according to Luo Ronghuai, president of the Chengdu aircraft manufacturer.

    Both Luo and Gao declined to specify either the potential importing nations or the price.

    Compared with the F-7, Q-5 and other fighter aircraft series currently in use in China, the Super-7 features a larger weapon- load capacity and a greater radar-detection range and it is stealth- capable, Gao said.

    Its maximum external storage weight is 3.8 tons, and it boasts a radar-detection range of up to 100 kilometres, compared with the current jets’ 30 kilometres, he said.

    “The Super-7 is capable of carrying out the dual mission of air- to-air and air-to-surface attacks,” Gao said.

    The cost-effective aircraft can be used as a fighter or a trainer, he said.

    in reply to: J-10 MASS Production Starts. #2689500
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    Central News Agency web site, Taipei, in English 0439 26 Nov 02/BBC Monitoring/(c) BBC

    Text of report in English by Taiwanese Central News Agency web site

    New York, 25 November: Mainland China deployed its first batch of 10 J-10A fighter planes in the air force units of the People’s Liberation Army’s Nanjing Military Command in August of this year, according to a spokesman for the Kanwa Information Centre (KWIC).

    The fighters are outfitted with the Russian AL-31FN turbofan engine and mainland China’s homegrown Type-1473 fire control radar system, according to the KWIC spokesman.

    KWIC is a non-government-run news agency that provides, on a regular basis, various news correspondence, original photos and reference reports on the foreign and national defence policies of different Asian governments.

    The spokesman also pointed out that Shenyang Aircraft Corp, China’s largest fighter aircraft enterprise, has formally begun development of mainland China’s fourth-generation Stealth heavy- duty fighters after the J-10A. The project is currently proceeding smoothly, with wind tunnel testing about to start, he said.

    in reply to: Velly Interesting news re: J-11s in PLAAF service #2691496
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    Originally posted by GoldenDragon
    It has nothing to do with whether or not there are MKIs or M2Ks.

    Tibet is easily defended and the neighboring “hostile” is geopolitically insignificant when compared to Taiwan and the east coast.

    Unless China has modern equipment to spare (and she doesn’t), the units in the Chinese southwest won’t be getting them no matter how many MKIs there are.

    The newest equipment will always go to the front facing the US, Taiwan and Japan.

    Actually they want to gain cheap publicity by trying to shoot down old Chinese aircraft. You are right in the sense that China attitude towards India will only Change after Taiwan issue is resolved.

    in reply to: Velly Interesting news re: J-11s in PLAAF service #2691519
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    Originally posted by plawolf
    “like the Flanker MKK design is any newer ”

    MKI is newer and probably better, but there are alot more MKK and SKs.;)

    Show me a single Air to Ground or Air to Air missile that MKI has fired and MKK has not. MKI radar can look further and can engage more targets simultaneosly but it is limited to capabilities of R-77 range. Where only two can be updated with data links simulaneously and that is what the current capabilities of MKK radar is. TVC has only 250hrs life with no thrust increase.

    in reply to: Velly Interesting news re: J-11s in PLAAF service #2691522
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    Originally posted by F-18 Hamburger
    like the Flanker MKK design is any newer :rolleyes:

    Mr. Indo Burger
    Where ever i post you post after me. where i mentioned a design of some thing. India Mirages are not Dash -5 standard. They don’t have MICA or BLACK SHAHINE. Old Radar and Old EW suite. No engine upgrade. Old Airframe. MKK are newer built , newer engines, Ability to carry all new Strike weopons. So where is the comparision. And don’t post every time after me.

    in reply to: Velly Interesting news re: J-11s in PLAAF service #2692296
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    Russia is also offering 14.1 Ton AL-31FM2 engine with -SK upgrade.

    in reply to: Velly Interesting news re: J-11s in PLAAF service #2692297
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    Originally posted by google
    Is it reflecting a change in attitude towards India perhaps, that India (in view of its modernization) needs to be considered in addition to TW?

    Do you think 20 years old Indian Mirages or 2 dozens not fully operational -MKI should be considered. It is all hype without substance.

    in reply to: Velly Interesting news re: J-11s in PLAAF service #2692315
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    Douglas Barrie Alexey Komarov

    2 February 2004
    Aviation Week & Space Technology
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    Volume 160, No. 5
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    (c) 2004 McGraw-Hill, Inc.

    The Russian air force intends to begin fielding its first regiment of upgraded Sukhoi Su-27 Flanker aircraft by the end of 2004, with a further batch to be modified in 2005, providing the air force with a badly needed multirole capability.

    The upgraded aircraft, the Su-27SM, will likely form the basis of any upgrade program for China, which is also seeking to improve the capability of its basic Su-27 fleet.

    Vladimir Mikhailov, commander in chief of the Russian air force, told a press conference here recently that along with five of the upgraded aircraft which have already been delivered to the Lipetsk training center, a further 20 airframes will be modified by the Komsomolsk-on-Amur production plant during 2004.

    The Su-27 upgrade will provide the air force with its first genuine multirole platform; almost all the Flankers in service are single-role aircraft, optimized for air-to-air combat. The upgrade will also afford the air force some breathing space in trying to adequately fund development of a next-generation combat aircraft.

    Further upgrades are underway to the long-range strike derivative of the Flanker. This much-delayed program is intended to replace the Sukhoi Su-24 Fencer and to take on some of the roles of the Tupolev Tu-22M Backfire.

    Mikhailov revealed that two of the seven existing development aircraft for the Sukhoi Su-27IB/Su-34 are to be upgraded at the Novosibirsk production site. The eighth Su-27IB was flown for the first time at the end of December, with an improved radar and avionics suite.

    The air force chief admitted that completion of the eighth aircraft, described as a production standard model, had to be delayed while changes to the technical specification were introduced. These were necessitated following trials of the aircraft that revealed performance problems.

    The aircraft’s Leninetz B-004 phased-array radar has been modified, according to a Russian industry official, along with avionics changes. The eighth aircraft is also fitted with the UOMZ TV/electro-optical sensor package, according to the official. This is mounted in a retractable bay under the aircraft’s chin. At least one other of the prototype aircraft has been fitted with the package, which is understood to include day and infrared sensors, as well as a laser designator.

    The exact status of a production order for the Su27IB/Su-34 remains unclear; however, industry sources claim that alongside modifying at least a further two pre-production standard aircraft, two new-build airframes, aircraft Nos. 9 and 10, are already on the factory floor in Novosibirsk.

    With funding remaining a painful problem, as Mikhailov admitted during the press conference, then the acquisition of large numbers of new aircraft in the near term, at least, is unlikely. Small batch production runs of the Su-27IB/Su-34 would appear the most affordable route to the aircraft entering the air force inventory in usable numbers.

    Cost is also a key driver with regard to the Su-27SM upgrade package. An industry official involved in the program points out that providing the aircraft with an air-to-surface capability did not require replacing the NNIR N-001 radar. “It was very important that we used the basic radar since this kept the cost down, both for us and for the customer,” he said.

    Instead, modifications were made to the radar system to provide the necessary processing for the inclusion of air-to-ground modes, as well as for the support of active radar-guided beyond- visual-range air-to-air missiles (AAM). Up to six Vympel R-77 (AA-12 Adder) active radar-guided AAMs can be carried by the Su-27SM.

    In terms of air-to-surface weaponry, both active and passive radar-guided versions of the Zvezda Strela Kh-31 (AS-17 Krypton) can be carried, with TV- and laser-guided versions of the Vympel Kh-29 (AS-14 Kedge) also capable of being used. A single KAB-1500Kr or four KAB-500Kr TV-guided bombs can also arm the aircraft. The provision for air-to-surface missiles has also meant the aircraft’s inner wing-section had to be strengthened to cope with the additional load.

    Russian avionics manufacturer Ramenskoye acted as the integrator in upgrading the cockpit. Two large multifunctional displays are mounted on the main panel behind the control stick, with a third, smaller display mounted in the center. The aircraft’s Saturn Al-31F engines are also likely to be uprated to offer additional thrust, possibly to the AL-31FM2 standard.

    The Su-27SM upgrade is included with the Russian defense ministry’s medium acquisition and development plan. Exactly how many will be upgraded will depend on overall program costs, but at least one additional batch of around 20 aircraft is likely.

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    I think this FTC-2000 can be used for training FC-1. Their will be no trainer version developed unless FC-1 becomes multi country export success.

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