Chinese aircraft which are cleared for export. The information is much freely available
as we can see from interviews of various people with FC-1 right from Chengdu website
to officials. And i think Chinese aviation industry is mature enough to make any
mistake in developement of 3rd generation (4Th generation western) aeroplane.
Problems will be only encountered in development of 4th (5Th generation western)
aircraft with full Stealth and interanl bays.
It is not just labor cost but design consultancy cost, material cost, production efficiency. and FC-1 cost is $12.5M not more according to official.
Even J-10 is i think cheaper than any western aircraft and J-10 use 22% composite
material in body if not morel.
probably that L-15 will compete with trainers. The looks are futuristic.
Great post. Keep it up. it is difficult to track threads among the polls and this format
is not that convenient.
The interview seems contridictory. He equates J-10 with advance and high tech some
some thing from west. So advance and high tech is not the same thing. So it means
50-50 number between advance and high tech.
i think FC-1 is right on the price. J-10 price is more approaching the Flanker30MK. so difficult to sell. The rest are not worth exportable commodity.
http://www.nti.org/db/china/conchr.htm
07/09/2003: Chengdu Aircraft Industrial Corporation (CAIC) unveiled their new fighter plane the ‘Super-7’ or Chao Qi to the public. The plane will carry two guided missiles on its first test flight sometime later this year. The new Super-7 is “an all-purpose light fighter, required to have all-weather operation capabilities, be capable of performing the dual tasks of dogfight and air-to-ground attack, and have the ability to launch medium-range missiles.” According to Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC), an enterprise under CAIC, if the test flight is successful they will immediately start production. However, mass production of the fighter will not begin until two and a half years of research are completed. The plane is being produced to be sold abroad to developing nations. According to Hong Kong press, China already has received orders from Iran and some African countries. Lou Ronghuai, general manager of CAC confirmed that several foreign countries have already placed orders for the new Super-7 but would not provide details. The Super-7 has the same engine as the Russian-made MIG-29. [“New Fighter Plane “Super-7” to Carry Two Missiles on First Flight,” Guangzhou Ribao, 10 July 2003; PRC’s Super-7 Aircraft to Make Maiden Flight ‘This Year’; Export Prospects ‘Good’,” Hong Kong Ta Kung Pao, 9 July 2003; “HK ZTS Describes PRC-Made Super-7 Combat Plane for Export Market,” Hong Kong Zhongguo Tongxun She, 2 September 2002.]
I think it is this news
The NIIP PANDA radar (currently under development for the Chinese MKK2) has an air-to-surface mode and can simultaneously cue two R77 AAMs against different targets. There also is a provision for the guidance of TV- and laserguided air-to-surface missiles.
There also is a range of new radars which may be used, including the “off-the-shelf” slot arrays (ZHUK MSE) or passive phased arrays (BARS, ZHUK WSFE or PERO – the latter weighs 30kg less than the Cassegrain antenna of the N-001, and enables the simultaneous tracking of ten targets while engaging six of them)
I have read it is made by RPKB(Russia) for -MKK .
Originally posted by bharat
What the heck are you even saying? Delta design is junk? Guess the J-10 uses a swept back design… 😀Whatever, man. Say what you want genius.
I got a question, what IRST will the J-10 be using and any information on the electronic warfare suite?
Did i mention pure delta? And J-10 is still not publicly disclosed
project and i havent been across any IRST literature to that
particular aircraft otherwise i would have posted it here. If you
don’t see it here it means i don’t know.
Originally posted by bharat
Sure, think what you want. I am flaming. 😀You did state that the Chinese do not want to export the J-10 to Pakistan? Why not? You need to think of the future, in the future LCA and J-10 will be low end fighters with the F-35 and PAK-FA being purchased by many Airforces.
Where does the FC-1 stand? It would be a far better choice to focus on the J-10 and develop it.
Are you stupid in comparing 30,000LBs thurst engine canarad
delta plane with some nonsense. This is J-10 thread started by
me not some comparision thread. Go start another thread for
what ever you want.
Originally posted by bharat
I don’t get it, what’s so special about the J-10? The frontline fighter of PLAAF is the Su-27 and Su-30MKK so why not export the J-10? Why the FC-1? Now iif it is modern then I guess the Bison is modern too. 🙂I am not flaming, just a reality check.
If you are not flaming than better read the first post of
the thread to know a little bit more about the Aircraft where
it is clearly stated as Superior to Taiwanese F-16 . And J-10 still
uses Russian engines which i think cannot be exported.
The rest of your post is pure intend to flame which i will ignore.
GoldenDragon
Learn from Crobato. It is not a messenger but a message that
matters. Most people just don’t want to believe that
China can produce a FBW 4Th generation fighter in such a
short period of time. And for exactly that matter i am sitting on
this board. The only message different from FC-1 Thread is
Night Vision googles, IRST and POD.
So we can leave this things out untill they are really installed.
Because untill it is shown to them(Which is not important by
itself) they will continue to post BS
Originally posted by Srbin
No I am not in the PLA/PLAAF/PLAN office to know this but PLAAF has clearly said they didn’t want the FC-1, I mean according to that leak they plan to construct over 1000 J-10s not FC-1s.I still don’t believe it until I hear some official news from China/PLAN/PLAAF/PLA
You better re read the FC-1 thread by Goldendragon that 1000
figure is given from the horse mouth but only thing different is
how many for export and how many for domestic use.
Originally posted by Srbin
Listen to yourself, J-10 is pretty much in the class of F-16, while FC-1 is just a little lighter with a smaller engine and less performance. You cannot compare J-10 and FC-1 as you can F-16 and F-15. J-10 is also sopposed to be cheapDude, you can talk all you want about PLAAF wanting the FC-1 but the fact IS that they DON’T want it!!! It’s simple.
Though they may have to take it or PLANAF might have to take it to increse chance of export orders.
Your sitting inside PLAAF decision making office that they wanted
or not. It is not the place for speculation. Read what is reported.
500 Test flights are required for this certification process.
I think it is not measured in hrs