Basic trainer commercial talks begin
The Indian basic trainer competition has entered its final phase. Commercial bids of the three final contenders were opened this week (Livefist had reported earlier about the three contenders making it to the final phase). The government will now choose between (in photos from top) the Pilatus PC-21, Hawker-Beechcraft T-6C Texan-II and Korean Aerospace KT-1.
Shiv has wrongly shown a TAI Hurkus image instead of the KT-1 Woong Bee.
An Anglo-Indian is to be the next Chief of the IAF. Some conspiracy theorists may suggest that this will tend to favour the Typhoon in the competition against the French Rafale !:P
Air Marshal NAK (Charlie) Browne will be the next IAF Chief of Staff.
New Delhi: Vaisakha 30, 1933
May 20, 2011Vice Chief of Air Staff Air Marshal NAK Browne will be the next Chief of Air Staff on the retirement of Air Chief Marshal PV Naik from government service on July 31, 2011.
Born in Allahabad on 15 December 1951, Air Marshal NAK Browne was commissioned into the Fighter stream of Indian Air Force on 24 June 1972. With about 3100 hours of flying to his credit, he has had a varied operational experience that included flying Hunters, all variants of MiG-21s, Jaguars and SU-30s.
An alumnus of National Defence Academy, Khadakwasla, Pune, he is a Fighter Combat Leader, who has also served as an instructor at the Tactics and Air Combat Development Establishment (TACDE) – a premiere flying establishment of the IAF and the Tri-services Defence Services Staff College (DSSC), Wellington.
A graduate of the Air Command and Staff College, Albama, USA, he had trained with the Royal Air Force (RAF) in the United Kingdom, on Jaguar aircraft and went on to command a Jaguar Squadron subsequently.
During his long and distinguished career spanning 38 years, he has held various operational and staff appointments that include – Joint Director at Air War Strategy Cell at Air Headquarters, Chief Operations Officer and Air Officer Commanding of a SU-30 base, Air-I at New Delhi based Western Air Command (WAC) and Assistant Chief of the Air Staff (Intelligence) at Air Headquarters.
He was also responsible for establishing the Indian Defence Wing in Tel Aviv, Israel in April 1997 where he served as the Defence Attache till July 2000. From March 2007 to 31 May 2009 he functioned as the Deputy Chief of the Air Staff (DCAS) at Air Headquarters and was responsible for lAF’s major Modernization Programmes.
Before taking over as the Vice Chief of the Air Staff (VCAS) at Air Headquarters on 01 January 2011, he was the AOC-in-C of Western Air Command, lAF’s most vital operational Command. Under his command and personal supervision, the first ever landing of an AN-32 (fixed wing aircraft) took place at Nyoma, advance Landing Ground (ALG), located at an altitude of 13,300 feet on 18 September 2009.
Air Marshal Browne is recipient of Param Vishist Seva Medal (PVSM), Ati Vishist Seva Medal (AVSM), Vayu Sena Medal (VM) and is appointed as one of the Honorary ADCs to the President of India.
and as Ajai Shukla says
A veteran Jaguar pilot, Charlie Browne is reputed to be favourably disposed towards western equipment… in contrast to the IAF’s so-called “Russian mafia”, which believes that Russian fighters are the very, very best!
BTW, Air Marshal Browne was one of the first batch of IAF pilots to be trained on the Jaguar in the UK..here is a picture of him (when he was a Flt Lt.) along with another former IAF Air Chief, Air Chief Marshal SP Tyagi, when they were in Britain.

L to R: – Flt Lt DC Kumaria, Flt Lt SCS Adhikari, Sqn Ldr DDS Kumar, Wg Cdr DR Nadkarni, Sqn Ldr SP Tyagi, Flt Lt NAK Browne, Sqn Ldr M McMahon. Sqn Ldr JS Sisodia is on the ladder.
IAF’s Jaguar re-engining tender has been withdrawn thanks to Rolls-Royce withdrawing from the competition.
New Delhi. The Ministry of Defence (MoD) has withdrawn the Request for Proposals (RfP) for re-engining the Indian Air Force’s Jaguar aircraft after one of the two contenders opted out..
I think that the sensible decision would be this time around not even send the RFP to Rolls-Royce and instead go with a FMS deal with Honeywell itself. Its the only way that this re-engining program can go ahead now.
I think the PAF has inducted ~25-30 JF-17s so far, equipping 2 squadrons. The most likely explanation is the negotiation for the next block of 50 aircraft, as stated by redgriffin.
they recently manufactured the 20th JF-17, SP-20 (Serial Production 20) at PAC Kamra. How many were imported directly from China ? that will tell you the exact number in PAF service.
Tejas will have weapons trials with LGBs, cluster bombs, S-8 rocket pods and the IAF wants it to be able to carry the Kh-59 series stand-off strike missiles and Kh-35/31 anti-ship missiles..
200 new attack helos?? :confused:
Gosh, the neighbours better watch out…
most of them will be the Light Combat Helicopter variants- the IAF has ordered 65 and the Army wants some for itself as well. In addition there are the 22 heavy attack helicopters (most likely the AH-64D Apache). There may be follow-on options exercised as well, who knows.
Navy wants F -35.
There is no relation between the MRCA and the navy.
Ray, I don’t think that’s true. There was a report by an ex-Navy top official that did mention that the IN may look long and hard at what the IAF selects for the shortlist and if the chosen aircraft has a Navy variant, it has a very good case for being selected, since India can manufacture it itself. There is a good reason for going for the same aircraft since upgrade costs can be shared between the IN and IAF, weapons stocks can be shared, training can be shared, maintenance can be shared with shared spares supplies.
cross-posting from BRF
live update from Vishnu’s pgm which quotes MOD ‘sources’
– Mig35 – did poorly in trials
– Gripen – radar underdeveloped. plane itself underdeveloped
– F18 – performance concerns , after sales service concerns
– F16 – future development limited, intrusive US lawsprice shown in EF – rafale comparison slide was Euro 90 mil vs Euro 63 mil
retd air marshal of WAC says precision strike capabilities , standoff weapons and AESA radar are most important criteria and whatever we get has to be modular and upgradeable enough to last us 40 yrs and effectively replace retiring older a/c in IAF.
EADS and Dassault have been asked to extend the validity of their bids till Dec 31, 2011 indicating that the winner of this deal will be selected by the end of the year.
New Delhi, April 28 (IANS) India has asked two European defence firms shortlisted for its $10.4 billion tender for 126 combat jets to extend their commercial bids till December 31 and has given them two weeks time to do so, an official said here Thursday.
The Indian Air Force (IAF), for whom the 126 medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) are being bought to replace its aging Soviet-era MiG-21 fighters, has conveyed to European consortium EADS Cassidian and French firm Dassault to extend their commercial bids that were to expire Thursday, the defence ministry official said.
EADS is offering the Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault the Rafale.
India has also conveyed to the other four contenders for the contract, described as the ‘mother of all defence deals’, that they were out of the race, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
American Boeing’s F/A-18 and Lockheed Martin’s F-16, Russian United Aircraft Corporation’s MiG-35 and Swedish SAAB’s Gripen were the firms whose bids were rejected and it was conveyed to them that their aircraft did not clear the flight and weapons evaluation trials completed in April 2010 on 643 parameters.
‘With this down-select, we have completed a major milestone in the MMRCA acquisition process,’ defence ministry spokesperson Sitanshu Kar said when asked for his reaction to the development.
Other officials said the process of selecting the winner of the MMRCA deal would be completed before the March 31 2012 end of this fiscal.
The defence ministry will carry out a ‘benchmarking’ of the prices of the two down-selected firms to arrive at a reasonable price for their aircraft before the commercial bids are opened and this could take some three to six months.
‘Only after the benchmarking is done would the commercial bids of the two firms be opened. The L1 — the lowest cost among the two bids — would be chosen after this benchmarking and cost negotiation process would begin with that firm,’ the official said, indicating that the contest for the major deal is not yet over.
Separately, the defence ministry would carry on negotiations with the two firms on their plans to fulfill their offsets commitments. India has fixed 50 percent offsets for the MMRCA deal to ensure that half of the deal’s worth or about $5 billion is reinvested in India to energise its defence industry.
A day after India informed the four contenders who are out of the fray, none of them have petitioned the defence ministry for re-consideration of their case, the official said, when specifically asked about this.
India likely to award trainer contract in 2011 Q3
NEW DELHI — India is poised to shortlist a manufacturer to provide much-needed basic trainer aircraft.
The contenders — Grob’s G-120 TP, Embraer’s EMB-312 Super Tucano, Korea Aerospace Industries’ KT-1, Finmeccanica’s M-311 and Pilatus’ PC-7 — emerged following a request for proposals issued in early 2010. The deal is estimated to cost $1 billion.
“The flight trials [of the competitors] have been completed and we are assessing the evaluation made by the Indian air force,” an Indian defense ministry official says. “We expect to award a contract in the third quarter of 2011 and the [deliveries] are expected to commence some time [in] 2012.”
India is seeking to procure 75 aircraft off the shelf, with 106 to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) under a joint venture agreement.
The selected manufacturer will be required to deliver an initial batch of 12 aircraft within two years of signing the contract.
Hi Mack8. I didn’t save the movie to my HD. expanded the movie to full screen, simply paused it at the right times and took screenshots.
more pics
Some screenshots of the MiG-29UPG from the video to which TR1 gave a link.
Shows the different sensors and the IFR probe that have been added to the UPG as well as the upgraded cockpit with 3 MFDs. Also shows what appears to be new Chaff and Flare dispensers.
ADA designers insist that Tejas Mk2 will belie all sceptics
Designers insist Tejas will belie all sceptical questioning
Ajai Shukla / Bangalore April 04, 2011, 0:22 IST
With the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) entering service with Indian Air Force squadrons, the designers of this indigenous fighter have explained why they believe this will be the world’s premier light fighter.
The Tejas Mark-II, to be developed by 2014 and roll off production lines by 2018, will perform 40 per cent better than the current fighter. After which would come the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft, the AMCA, which the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) says will be a “fifth-generation plus” fighter, more formidable than anything flying today.
In an exclusive interview with Business Standard, P Subramanyam, director of the Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA), which is developing the LCA and the AMCA, responded to IAF criticism that the Tejas was not yet a world-class fighter. He said the Tejas Mark-I, still being flight-tested, had been flown to just 85 per cent of its full capability. The Tejas Mark-II — in which a more powerful GE-414 engine will replace the current GE-404 engine — would perform another 15 per cent better.
“The Tejas Mark-I will expand its performance envelope to its full capability by end-2012. And, a major performance boost will come from the Tejas Mark-II’s new GE-414 engine, for which we have signed a $700-million (Rs 3,135 crore) contract to build here in India. The Mark-II will outperform the Mark-I by about 15 per cent in the key aspects of take-off run, rate of climb, acceleration, and turn rate. Most of this would come from the higher thrust of the GE-414 engine. Another two-three per cent benefit would come from better aerodynamics… since we will re-engineer the fighter to accommodate the new engine. That overall 35-40 per cent improvement would make the LCA the world’s premier light fighter,” says Subramanyam.
The Tejas Mark-I is scheduled to obtain Final Operational Clearance by end-2012. A fighter is granted FOC when ready for combat missions, with all its weapons and sensors fitted, integrated and tested. The IAF worries that the Tejas, already long delayed, might not obtain its FOC on schedule.
Meanwhile, ADA designers are working on the Tejas Mark-II, which Subramanyam says will fly by 2014, enter production by 2016, and obtain FOC by 2018. “Besides re-designing the airframe to accommodate the GE-414 engine, ADA will also grab the opportunity to upgrade key electronics, especially the flight control computer and some avionics, so that the Mark-II is a cutting-edge fighter when it enters service,” says the ADA chief.‘No fancy plan’
Brushing aside apprehension of further delay of the kind that has dogged the Tejas programme, Subramanyam insists, “Our design timeline is realistic. The main sub-systems of the Tejas Mark-II will remain unchanged, except for electronics components. So, the Mark-II will not need extensive flight-testing, as most of its sub-systems will have already been test-flown on the Mark-I.”ADA designers also say “maintainability” of the Tejas has already been established. This key attribute relates to how quickly and easily technicians can service and repair the fighter and, therefore, how quickly it can get out of a hangar and into combat. Of 200 “requests for action” — suggestions from IAF pilots and technicians for design changes that would ease maintenance — most have already been implemented. Just 12-15 remain for implementing in the Mark-II.
link to article on Business Standard
Ajai Shukla got a little confused. What PS Subramanyam was saying is that the Tejas Mk1 has been tested upto 85% of its full flight envelope with the rest 15% to be completed by Dec 2012 when it reaches FOC. Its not like it’ll be at 85% of its full capability throughout and that the Mk2 will achieve the rest 15%.
IAF’s issues with Russian after-sales support continues even now. I think that this effectively seals the fate of the MiG-35 and may even mar the chances of the Mi-28NE and Mi-26T.
Sourcing of spares and consumables for its Russian-built aircraft and weapon systems has sunk to a new low for the IAF, with the government permitting it to issue multiple global tenders for spares across a range of systems. The move marks a striking break from the Indian defense ministry’s traditional practice of contracting spares from original equipment manufacturers via Rosoboronexport.
Now the IAF is turning to vendors in Europe, Israel and the U.S. to respond to an urgent spares call for Russian-built equipment it has in inventory.
There are more than 25 tenders on the street, with more floated each day. The service needs everything from terminals and transformers for its MiG-29 fighters to main wheels for its Su-30 fleet. It also needs multiple spares for its Il-76/-78 transport fleet, Mi-26 and Mi-17 helicopters and virtually all Russian-built ground radars, including its P-19 Danubes.
The MiG-29 situation may be the most difficult. The aircraft is undergoing an extensive upgrade, which means it needs close to 150 different spare parts, including shield installations, main and nose wheels, video amplifiers and photo diodes, as well as minor items such as transformers, capacitors and resistors.
The issue goes beyond cost and poor relations with its supplier. For the IAF there is a very real day-in, day-out operational cost. For example, Il-78 refueling tankers are suffering from a lack of major parts, hobbling mission rates.
The supply problems are not new. What appears to have changed is that the IAF has finally had enough. Perhaps with more access to Western equipment, it no longer believes it has to put up with years of neglected customer service from Russia. Instead, service leaders say they want an unhindered flow of spares for their aircraft and weapons.
rest of the article on the link.